Marketsurfer's bold gold proclamation

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surf made a bold call. quite entertaining to me especially
since the market dropped further than i'd believe it would.

that is what trading boards are about. surf rocks.

Bold, sure. Any frigging idiot can make a BOLD call that's off by 40%

Wall St is full of them
 
Quote from traderNik:

Please explain why it's hypocritical. Doesn't necessarily sound hypocritical to me. The trader might mean that, purely from a trading perspective, long positions should have been exited given the retracement gold went through, and a close above 1030 would be extremely bullish and indicate another long entry. William O'Neill would agree, and he wasn't bad.

Of course, you may say that you disagree with the assessment, but there's nothing here that's 'hypocritical'.

By the way, I totally agree that surf should come on here and admit that he blew this call (if he hasn't already, I didn't read the whole thread). He's also in danger of blowing his 'The Bottom Is In' call for the overall markets. He has denigrated the trading style of others quite a bit on here. Now's the time to admit that his methods aren't any better than mine.

Yeah,,,gold fell about $250 from his initial call...
sure it's not sub 600 now, but it's not 4.1.2009 either...
 
The historical value of gold is that it's a piece of shit. When it goes up amateurs come out of the wood work and have a wet dream.

The historical value of Gold that it doesn't make you rich...it just helps keep you from going totally broke on a relative basis...and only sometimes...and only in the perfect hedge (which doesn't exist) . In other words a Piece of Shit. Plus holding through of year long pull back raises your BE price accordingly. Not smart either.

Quote from sprstpd:

Yes, he might be a good trader for going long at that point, but then he contradicts his core assertion about gold.

This is just another way of saying that anyone who says that quote above doesn't have any concept of the historical value of gold.
 
Don't get me wrong just because Gold is traditionally is POS doesn't mean I won't/have't used it as a store of wealth, along with other things like certain cars, tapestries, Class 3 firearms, certain real estate, farm land, cattle farms, greasy wool, Timber farms...etc...etc...Gold is no different than those.

Make no mistake however...I actively root for the complete and total collapse the global monatary system. We're long over due.
 
Quote from mind:

surf made a bold call. quite entertaining to me especially
since the market dropped further than i'd believe it would.

that is what trading boards are about. surf rocks.

agreed.

prices dont have limits..traders do.
 
Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

Don't get me wrong just because Gold is traditionally is POS doesn't mean I won't/have't used it as a store of wealth, along with other things like certain cars, tapestries, Class 3 firearms, certain real estate, farm land, cattle farms, greasy wool, Timber farms...etc...etc...Gold is no different than those.

Gold as a store of wealth: (From Steve Randy Waldman)

"Stephen Den Beste once wrote about electrical power:

...electric power has unique properties, and one of the most important is that at any given instant the amount of electric power being generated will always exactly match the amount of power being consumed. If you don't deliberately balance the system, the laws of physics will do the balancing for you in ways you won't like.

Electric power has to be generated at the time it is needed, and the electric power grid overall has to have the ability to add generation capacity as demand rises, and to reduce generation when demand falls again.

But this property is not unique to electrical power. Wealth in general must also be generated at or very near the time at which it will be consumed. Just as electrical power can be stored in batteries, but it's inefficient, wealth can be stored (durable goods, commodities like gold or oil), but only very imperfectly. Here's a thought experiment: Imagine you have a million dollars today, and a reliable single-use time-machine. You buy a million dollars worth of gold, cart it into the device, and set the dial to Y3K. When you step out, you find that some apocalypse has occurred. Fortunately, humans are not extinct. The locals still like gold, and they respect your property. You live out your life, but as a very rich man would have in Neanderthal times. Your gold was perfectly storable. But your wealth was not. You are much poorer now than then. The same story would hold with any commodity, or with any practical mix of commodities, by which a person might try to store wealth. An individual's real wealth is a function of the claims he can muster on the products and services provided by a diverse current economy. Without such an economy, whatever one has, whether financial assets or real stuff, will have only very temporary and limited value."
 
Quote from MohdSalleh:

surf said he would be finished after that dow call, but hes still arnd hosting parties.

is he really a trader?:D
Most traders trade for a reaon:

Money, which brings among other things, women.

When you already have those things (not that women are "things" ... sheesh), does it really matter? :D
 
mandel,

thnx. i love when posters sometimes break the pattern
of thinking. you nailed it ... but hardly anyone will admit
that it is exactly as you say ...
 
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