Markets on alert after (Spanish) bank bailout

in all honesty no one really cares about Europe. this was just a way for the markets to go down to the -10% correction level that we hit and are now going to climb from. U.S. markets / our own economy gives 2 ***** about the economy abroad. as long as the green back is the dominant currency then we will all be fine. What you have to be worried about is that one day the American public will realize that we have trillions and trillions of dollars in debt (happy trading make money)
 
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in all honesty no one really cares about Europe. this was just a way for the markets to go down to the -10% correction level that we hit and are now going to climb from. U.S. markets / our own economy gives 2 ***** about the economy abroad......

Has anyone ever accused you of being a certified genius?
 
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in all honesty no one really cares about Europe. this was just a way for the markets to go down to the -10% correction level that we hit and are now going to climb from. U.S. markets / our own economy gives 2 ***** about the economy abroad. as long as the green back is the dominant currency then we will all be fine. What you have to be worried about is that one day the American public will realize that we have trillions and trillions of dollars in debt (happy trading make money)

I don't want to stereotype - but are you a creationist from the South?
 
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in all honesty no one really cares about Europe. this was just a way for the markets to go down to the -10% correction level that we hit and are now going to climb from.

Can you upload youtube videos of your explanations? I believe most ET'ers can understand you better through visuals.

Thanks,
 
May 22 (Bloomberg) -- The Bank of Spain removed the managers of CajaSur, a savings bank crippled by property loan defaults, and put the bank under a provisional administrator.

The lender, based in the city of Cordoba, Spain, and controlled by the Roman Catholic Church, will be controlled by the government’s bank restructuring fund, the regulator said today in an e-mailed statement.

Spain’s worst recession in 60 years has driven up defaults at the country’s banks, which have made loans worth 454 billion euros ($570 billion) to finance construction and activities related to real estate. Banks have until the end of June to seek aid from a government fund of up to 99 billion euros set up last year as the regulator seeks to hasten mergers between ailing lenders to ease over-capacity and help them recapitalize.

“The Bank of Spain has shown it’s prepared to take action to resolve the situation at CajaSur and that’s positive,” Alberto Espelosin, who helps manage about $12 billion at Ibercaja Gestion in Zaragoza.

The board of CajaSur, a savings bank with assets of about 19 billion euros and 486 branches that posted a 596 million-euro loss last year, last night rejected a plan to merge with Unicaja, a bigger lender based in Malaga, sparking the action by the regulator. CajaSur had been in talks since last July over a possible merger with Unicaja.

‘Special Situation’

The central bank’s decision to takeover CajaSur follows the seizure of Caja Castilla-La Mancha in March, 2009. CajaSur accounts for 0.6 percent of the assets of the Spanish banking industry, the Bank of Spain said. Depositors and creditors should “stay calm” as the bank will continue to function normally under the fund’s administration, the regulator said.

CajaSur is a “special situation” resulting from the failure of the merger with Unicaja, the Spanish savings bank association said in a statement sent by e-mail.

Bad loans as a proportion of total lending at Spain’s savings banks rose to 5.35 percent in March from 4.78 percent a year earlier, according to Bank of Spain data.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...ajasur-lender-hurt-by-bad-loans-update1-.html

Actually, the Bank of Spain ceized the bank because of its unwillingness to merge with Unicaja. I think CajaSur's board must be pretty pi..ed...:D
 
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Really? Old News? Factored in already?

Remember subprime - first came to surface in MSM around mid 2007, markets then went higher then got a mention again then the markets started tanking

The Greece problem was a partial cause of that dip in Feb, markets went higher again then the issue came up again and the markets are doing its current dive

We'll see when the markets open this week, I think it causes the markets to resume its downtrend. At the very least thought I would post it here to share the info (fear).

Remember what Bernanke was saying....3/28/07 - Testimony before the Joint Economic Committee.......now we hear from the masters of the universe the PIGS are contained all is well :)

“At this juncture, however, the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained. In particular, mortgages to prime borrowers and fixed-rate mortgages to all classes of borrowers continue to perform well, with low rates of delinquency.”
 
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/t...ectors/banking_and_finance/article7133957.ece

FEARS of further turbulence in the financial markets mounted yesterday as Spain was forced to bail out one of its biggest regional banks, adding to worries about the eurozone.

Spain’s central bank took operational control of Cajasur, one of 44 large regional lenders that account for about half the Spanish banking market. It will need an immediate cash injection of €500m (£430m).

The intervention has heightened concerns that Spain’s regional lenders could put added strain on its public finances. The collapse of the Spanish property market has left the regional banks with an estimated €300 billion bad-debt problem. Concern about Spain’s banks is one of the worries that have been hanging over the eurozone in recent weeks.

Jean-Claude Trichet, head of the European Central Bank, added to eurozone woes when he warned Portugal that it must act immediately to cut its budget deficit


This should add some "much needed" volatility for this weeks trading




bailouts like this one (small regional banks) happen in the US almost every week.

companies go bust and banks are not different, especially in the aftermath of the real estate crush.

this would be relevant if we were talking about Banco Santander, which is about 100X the size of Cajasur.
 
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