Markets are just plain boring right now.
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whitster, a couple of questions if I may ask?
1. You really find MP helpful, huh? I have heard alot of great things about it, and looked into some basic educational materials on it, but from what I have seen on MP charts I could just as easily tell it was chop on a candle chart as on a historical MP chart? Does that make sense? I understand the real basic of POC, VAH, and VAL, but it looks like another set of inflection points or S/R lines? How does MP tell the character of the market?
If it has ability to tell me when we are going to chop vs. move directional that would be awesome. That's the biggest problem I have. When the left side of the V bottom was getting formed on a 10 min ES chart today, who knew that was a V at the moment? It could have just as easily stalled and continued lower. If MP can help me glean info on that I will read and absorb all I can on MP.
2. Did you mean 4-6 days a month or 4 days out of 5 are trend day?
TIA and good trading to you.
Dan
My brothers your focus on volatility drives me up the freakin wall. It's bad enough buying paper stamped with companies names on it but when you simply directional trade... I don't know it's a living but please guys enough with the morose how boring life is. You have willingly chosen this hyper focused life, strapped to your chairs. I'm no better but I recently went to a concert JVC Jazz fest and to see those backup musicians doing there thing, real New York working musicians to see what they do, the joy they get out of it, their talent is humbling, their smiles unnerving when is the last fucking time I smiled doing my work? Sure I take a triumphant jig around the table now and then but it's not the same, it's a greedy little jig, insular, not really human. The life of a musician leads... they have a lot more fun I'm sure. That's living it's not about fame it's about working. And loving your work and creating. How much of that is in high finance? There's quite a bit but you have to search for it.
In reality we have had 2 short sharp mini corrections in the span of however many months (brief) We have notched an high as world markets hit a crescendo of highs. All in the face of despite of $72 dollar oil. What is going on here? The next level of wealth creation?. I'm not a rah rah guy but when you take the time to really run the China, India numbers... combine all this low financed borrowing... with Private Equity now, curiously, going public? With money being used in ways it has never been used before, and on top of that with lots of leverage... A stock market that has just now returned to where it was 5 years ago and broken out... is the volume enough? Are we for real? These are big exciting questions. Could we all double our money in the next few years and then get annihilated by a nuclear briefcase?...
Oh My! Commscope is $47 dollars! Have you had one of these "Aha" moments lately? I was sitting there content as could be when I saw that quote come across the screen and it really struck me hard. Jesus maybe I'm NOT doing that good. Is beating the market enough in these times? Should I be making bigger bets? HOW MANY FREAKIN TIMES DID I TRADE Commscope AT $15 and $18 in the past!!... just when the hell did it go to $40 something... and then you see these piece of shit like HLIT and others that have never gone anywhere and never will and you say "I'm right there is a lot of crap out there and you have you pick and choose. " It's perplexing but some names have gone up a lot some names I'm not in.
But first the crash? This feels an awful lot like 1987 to me boys.... To say things are not exciting is silly talk. Lets keep it real. ~ stoney
In reality we have had 2 short sharp mini corrections in the span of however many months (brief) We have notched an high as world markets hit a crescendo of highs. All in the face of despite of $72 dollar oil. What is going on here? The next level of wealth creation?. I'm not a rah rah guy but when you take the time to really run the China, India numbers... combine all this low financed borrowing... with Private Equity now, curiously, going public? With money being used in ways it has never been used before, and on top of that with lots of leverage... A stock market that has just now returned to where it was 5 years ago and broken out... is the volume enough? Are we for real? These are big exciting questions. Could we all double our money in the next few years and then get annihilated by a nuclear briefcase?...
Oh My! Commscope is $47 dollars! Have you had one of these "Aha" moments lately? I was sitting there content as could be when I saw that quote come across the screen and it really struck me hard. Jesus maybe I'm NOT doing that good. Is beating the market enough in these times? Should I be making bigger bets? HOW MANY FREAKIN TIMES DID I TRADE Commscope AT $15 and $18 in the past!!... just when the hell did it go to $40 something... and then you see these piece of shit like HLIT and others that have never gone anywhere and never will and you say "I'm right there is a lot of crap out there and you have you pick and choose. " It's perplexing but some names have gone up a lot some names I'm not in.
But first the crash? This feels an awful lot like 1987 to me boys.... To say things are not exciting is silly talk. Lets keep it real. ~ stoney
"1. You really find MP helpful, huh? I have heard alot of great things about it, and looked into some basic educational materials on it, but from what I have seen on MP charts I could just as easily tell it was chop on a candle chart as on a historical MP chart? Does that make sense? I understand the real basic of POC, VAH, and VAL, but it looks like another set of inflection points or S/R lines? How does MP tell the character of the market?"
i find mp incredibly useful. it helps as a filtering tool (to filter out some trades) and offers some very useful information as to the character of the market - where is value (ON ALL TIMEFRAMES). how is the market moving around high volume nodes. where do I see price rejection.
i had a trade (i mailed this idea out to several clients) that i got filled on in premarket this morning (when I was asleep) that netted me 40 pts. and i had set my limit order 5 days ago.
it was based on a MP level. it did not go against my fill by more than 2 frigging ticks. Simply put, MP is very powerful. also, a tiny percentage of retail traders use MP. they use squiggly lines and lagging indicators. a hyooge part of my edge is fading retail and following institutions.
i can't give you a seminar on MP (for free! ) but there is some good literature on it at www.cbot.com
"If it has ability to tell me when we are going to chop vs. move directional that would be awesome. That's the biggest problem I have. When the left side of the V bottom was getting formed on a 10 min ES chart today, who knew that was a V at the moment? It could have just as easily stalled and continued lower. If MP can help me glean info on that I will read and absorb all I can on MP."
sure it can. MP helps me decide when to
1) fade a move
2) go with a move
3) stand aside.
which is critical info. i can and have traded w/o MP. i have found that MP offers occasional (like i said i had to wait for a week for this trade) trades that offer wonderful risk/reward and on a daily basis (and to a lesser extent intraday) help me understand market character and what the institutions are doing.
"2. Did you mean 4-6 days a month or 4 days out of 5 are trend day?"
4 to 6 days a month. easily verifiable if you look back. most days do not qualify as trend days, in the YM
i find mp incredibly useful. it helps as a filtering tool (to filter out some trades) and offers some very useful information as to the character of the market - where is value (ON ALL TIMEFRAMES). how is the market moving around high volume nodes. where do I see price rejection.
i had a trade (i mailed this idea out to several clients) that i got filled on in premarket this morning (when I was asleep) that netted me 40 pts. and i had set my limit order 5 days ago.
it was based on a MP level. it did not go against my fill by more than 2 frigging ticks. Simply put, MP is very powerful. also, a tiny percentage of retail traders use MP. they use squiggly lines and lagging indicators. a hyooge part of my edge is fading retail and following institutions.
i can't give you a seminar on MP (for free! )
but there is some good literature on it at www.cbot.com"If it has ability to tell me when we are going to chop vs. move directional that would be awesome. That's the biggest problem I have. When the left side of the V bottom was getting formed on a 10 min ES chart today, who knew that was a V at the moment? It could have just as easily stalled and continued lower. If MP can help me glean info on that I will read and absorb all I can on MP."
sure it can. MP helps me decide when to
1) fade a move
2) go with a move
3) stand aside.
which is critical info. i can and have traded w/o MP. i have found that MP offers occasional (like i said i had to wait for a week for this trade) trades that offer wonderful risk/reward and on a daily basis (and to a lesser extent intraday) help me understand market character and what the institutions are doing.
"2. Did you mean 4-6 days a month or 4 days out of 5 are trend day?"
4 to 6 days a month. easily verifiable if you look back. most days do not qualify as trend days, in the YM
This forum is getting boring
Now you've done it!!! No doubt, you've just inspired another 300 page "trend doesn't exist" thread based on your comment! :eek:
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Yeah, people and their questions and answers and reading...if only the world were cookies and playtime like at your day-care huh?
