Market Selloff as people realize horrible dumbass Democrats kill economy

piezoe said:
We should talk about this sometime. The "deficit" is a politically useful concept. The Republicans use it whenever they want to kill things they are ideologically opposed to, though it is sometimes difficult to tell ideology from self-interest. When they use the "deficit" ploy, it's often capital investments they are killing!!! They have no problem with appropriating more for War than the Pentagon asks for. They love spending on wasting assets, because when these temporary assets, often never used for their intended purpose, go to the scrap heap, the companies they own get to produce still more wasting assets. They don't think far enough ahead to realize the same companies could be producing capital assets instead. There kind of spending is wasteful and does little for the bulk of Americans, other than to keep them treading water. Investment, on the other hand, produces a positive return and will reduce net future Treasury liabilities and the non-discretionary spending that goes with these liabilities. And most importantly, real investment in the future lifts the little boats as well as the yachts. We need to spend less on wasting assets and invest more in capital assets that will sustain our future.
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The left right up down black white bullshit diverts from the fact that the worlds resources are poorly managed.
 
piezoe said:
We should talk about this sometime. The "deficit" is a politically useful concept. The Republicans use it whenever they want to kill things they are ideologically opposed to, though it is sometimes difficult to tell ideology from self-interest. When they use the "deficit" ploy, it's often capital investments they are killing!!! They have no problem with appropriating more for War than the Pentagon asks for. They love spending on wasting assets, because when these temporary assets, often never used for their intended purpose, go to the scrap heap, the companies they own get to produce still more wasting assets. They don't think far enough ahead to realize the same companies could be producing capital assets instead. There kind of spending is wasteful and does little for the bulk of Americans, other than to keep them treading water. Investment, on the other hand, produces a positive return and will reduce net future Treasury liabilities and the non-discretionary spending that goes with these liabilities. And most importantly, real investment in the future lifts the little boats as well as the yachts. We need to spend less on wasting assets and invest more in capital assets that will sustain our future.
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Unfortunately, I have to agree with most of that.
 
vanzandt said:
Since 1999 NATO has brought Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia into their fold... all east of Germany.
Putin protested but it still happened and Putin accepted it.
Now he's drawn a line.
I am of the opinion we respect that line.
Putin is NOT Obama, that line's for real.

For human rights we have organizations like the U.N., Amnesty International, etc to monitor what goes on there, but to arm Ukraine with short and medium range missiles, tanks, artillery, $100's of millions earmarked for more weapons of death, and all the other "perks" of being a NATO state... right on Putin's back lawn is absolutely stupid.

When Putin installs missile bases in Windsor, Canada, across the river from Detroit, then Biden has the right to put his nose in things.
NATO is big enough already.
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vanzandt said:
You are sooo stupid.
Yeah, I could just see Millennials and gen Z'rs starving, freezing, eating the soles of shoes, all the while under 24/7 artillery fire digging trenches by hand in frozen ground to prevent 100's of thousands of soldiers and tanks rolling into Chicago or NY.

Keep the context of my post in mind before you spout off. I was referring to the strength and fortitude of the Russian people in comparison to your pussy ass generation today. 2 weeks tops and you'd be surrendering like Sadam's army did. I'd take ten 87 yo Ken Langones on the front-line over 100 of your ilk.
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Im not in the millennial or Z generations. We have had this conversation before and you are showing some mental collapse by forgetting this.

The “strength” of the Russian people is fine but they will get annihilated in a war with America. Make no mistake, they antagonize and push to leverage annoyances strategically where they can but that is only to the extent where they avoid direct conflict. Their strength is in being a snake in the grass.

As an FYI, the average age of the enlisted soldier is 27 and 34 for officers and they’d all leave Ken Langone exactly where they found him. There isn’t anything more lethal on this planet pound for pound than a US soldier.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Neither Russia nor China want outright conflict.

Incrementalism has and will continue to be their friend.

What they want is a weak American president and then let the trend continue to be their friend. They have that now for sure. Ditto for the Iranians. The trend is their friend. Just add time into the mix and they have everything they want.
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I do not necessarily think you are correct. As a matter of fact one could rightly argue Biden is showing much more strength than Obama and Trump in Russian affairs.

The trend may be their friend in that the Euros have shown not to be up to the task. Like I have said before, in this current situation the Ukrainians are pivotal and it will depend on how much they actually unload if Russia moves in. If the Ukrainians open up they will ultimately lose but the Russians could find themselves worse for the wear.

We’ll see. There is a lot more moving parts in 2022 than in 2014. But it’s getting into Russian invasion season so we should know something pretty soon.
 
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