Market Manipulation?

Scataphagos

Scataphagos

Precious metals ETFs and mining stocks are suddenly snapping higher this morning, raising questions about whether the Reddit Rebellion is migrating to one of the most manipulated markets of all.

Imagine if @wallstreetbets finally ended the paper price suppression of precious metals. Physical silver has a market cap of $30B. What a joke. This is only possible with infinite supply black hole paper derivative markets. ⛏️#Silver $Silver $SLV $AGhttps://t.co/nkwmScJyG0

— Alex Saunders ‍ (@AlexSaundersAU) January 27, 2021
One WallStreetBets user (jjalj30) posted the following last night:

Silver Bullion Market is one of the most manipulated on earth. Any short squeeze in silver paper shorts would be EPIC. We know billion banks are manipulating gold and silver to cover real inflation.

Both the industrial case and monetary case, debt printing has never been more favorable for the No. 1 inflation hedge Silver.

Inflation adjusted Silver should be at 1000$ instead of 25$. Link to post removed by mods.

Why not squeeze $SLV to real physical price.

Think about the Gainz. If you don't care about the gains, think about the banks like JP MORGAN you'd be destroying along the way.

Edit 1: ALL IN ON $AG. LETS GET THE MINERS.

Edit: $AG UP 40% PM. YOU FUCKING RETARDS. SLV TO THE FUCKING MARZ. I have got some interesting ifo from Gold Ventures. Here he goes---

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Will regulators weigh in??
 
Honestly speaking, the manipulated market is one of the easiest markets to
trade.
Because we know how the manipulators work.
They use volume to push the price up (ie they must have a deep pockets).
And we know when the manipulators are leaving the market.
Manipulators prefer to manipulate the low price products.
But there was a manipulator who manipulated Nikkei!


The manipulators are 'harmless'. They wouldn't hurt the traders at all.
In fact, they provide trading opportunities.
We shall not be the manipulators but we will seize the
trading opportunities.


The regulators will continue to catch the manipulators.
We will continue to look for trading opportunities
from non manipulated charts and also manipulated charts.
 
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maxinger said:
The manipulators are 'harmless'. They wouldn't hurt the traders at all.
In fact, they provide trading opportunities.
We shall not be the manipulators but we will seize the
trading opportunities.
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There is no "harmless" in this dynamic! It's being done intentionally... a coordinated effort to manipulate the market to someone's disadvantage... using the communication portal of an internet website. In my book, this might be seen as "illegal market manipulation".

What about those who are getting squeezed..... institutional funds being "forced" into covering at great loss* by a bunch of snot-nosed noobs who are speculating with "stimulus" money from the government? (There is something very wrong with this picture.)

*Not that I'm against institutional shorts taking a loss when wrong on their play... but there are regulations against "pump and dump"... and though this might not be exactly the same, it's similar.... and therefore illegal (?)
 
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Scataphagos said:
But what about those who are getting squeezed..... institutional funds being "forced" into covering by a bunch of snot-nosed noobs who are speculating with "stimulus" money from the government? (There is something very wrong with this picture.)
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short squeezed?
I hate to say but those fund managers were doing counter-trend,
against the grain,
against the herd,
against the flow trading.

They failed to read the chart correctly.
The market was obviously in the uptrend.
It was so obvious even the blind could see.
Instead of pressing the BUY button first,
they pressed the SELL button first.

It seems like they are newbie, amateur, inexperienced
hedge fund managers.
Sorry no pity, no sympathy for those managers.
 
most institutions have a long only bias for metals. whatever institutions supressing it, let's called them MPJ, for example, they own the vault and have an arb position. When they push the market down, it's usually through market sweeps. It's not a core short
 
Silver and Gold miners were already massively oversold and great value plays. If anything, they should rally on fundamentals into earnings. No short squeeze needed. If anything they've been manipulated down in recent weeks.
 
ballsofgold said:
most institutions have a long only bias for metals. whatever institutions supressing it, let's called them MPJ, for example, they own the vault and have an arb position. When they push the market down, it's usually through market sweeps. It's not a core short
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You're missing the point.

It's illegal to promote a coordinated effort to manipulate price in the securities markets.
 
maxinger said:
short squeezed?
I hate to say but those fund managers were doing counter-trend,
against the grain,
against the herd,
against the flow trading.
More...

That's not illegal. If were to become so, the rules would have to change.
 
Scataphagos said:
You're missing the point.

It's illegal to promote a coordinated effort to manipulate price in the securities markets.
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are you referring to the banks or the retail traders hahahah, both sides are guilty. I AGREE it's collusion

i think in this instance, the SEC are going after no one, too many individuals involved.

what they are doing is halting stocks for trading on their platform, including SLV if necessary, it has already started. they pumping the breaks in hopes the market will normalise.
 
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