Well... Nobody's Perfect... LOL... I'm Having an Acidic Day...
Thank You for Your Clarifying Post...
Just had a few more seconds to remove my petty comment at the end...
market manipulation is there really difference?
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Well... Nobody's Perfect... LOL... I'm Having an Acidic Day...
Thank You for Your Clarifying Post...
Just had a few more seconds to remove my petty comment at the end...
Manipulated stocks are the traders' dream,
and investors' nightmare.
members from eliteinvestor.com suffer from insomnia because of manipulators.
traders welcome manipulators with open arms
because they provide great trading opportunities.
Your write-up is 100% from the problematic viewpoint.
You will never ever be able to earn $$$ from investing or trading.
You have to learn how to look at things from
opportunistic and not problematic viewpoint.
Look up definition of a market maker. If you add liquidity you effectively are making a market, especially in the volume they deal with.
So it is just as easy to pump a penny stock by 100x, as compared to pumping NVDA by 100x?
You are trying way too hard to be cute and have a hot unique take.
For market makers it is.
Why wouldnt they pump a stock same way as penny stocks?
Does it really make a difference what you are trading?
It still getting pumped and manipulated at every level.
The point is people saying trading penny stocks is bad because they are manipulated... like The entire market is manipulated whats the difference
LOL, no. Not everyone who post a non-marketable order is a market maker. Providing liquidity is not the same thing as making a market.
You need to sit down a look at the basic stats for these companies and do some basic math. Ask yourself:
What would it cost to buy or sell 2x the average daily volume of stock X? What would it cost to buy a 5% ownership stake in the company?
If you can't do that, I suggest you discontinue trading individual stocks immediately.
Also, keep in mind that many of the largest firms are managing other people's money. They are generally constrained by the prospectus for a variety of funds. An SP500 fund might have hundreds of billions of dollars of AUM, but the can't use it all to go buy puts or calls on a given stock. They have to buy a basket of stocks that tracks an index. The set of funds that have many billions of dollars that they can use for short term speculation is going to be rather small.
This is saying it's as easy to fill a concert venue for 100,000 as it is for 100. It's obviously silly drivel.
Yes. It does.
With that kind of attitude I bet you're killing it.
In some ways manipulation is almost a best case scenario. If an asset is selling for 1/10 or 100x what it should be, those are opportunities. Figure out if you're right and figure out a way to profit.
If you've got real evidence of actual manipulation, call the SEC top line and cash in.
It’s actually easy to estimate the amount of capital you’d need to move any given security. It’s expensive and not profitable (in fact, exactly the opposite)
A truly successful manipulation requires “passengers” - ie people that participate but do not benefit.
Don't worry about it, use it! You want to:
- Embrace the market, and use it to your advantage: some use a strategy that seeks out the "manipulation" and just tries to grab a piece of it.
- Figure out how to ignore the noise: Price movement can appear significant but is often just noise.
- Remember also you are not the target of the "manipulation". You might get caught in it, but your positions are rarely the target. The targets are a conglomeration or other large trader(s). Certainly, don't make your position a target, that would be "dumb money".
LOL, Yes it is. That makes you a liquidity provider and in-turn you're making a market.