Market Delta - Transitioning to the New Platform

That is fair......but what are your specific problems, then maybe solutions can be determined. See what I am getting at.....to correct the problem.


BTW...Are you in Europe?
 
Quote from 5Pillars:

That is fair......but what are your specific problems, then maybe solutions can be determined. See what I am getting at.....to correct the problem.

In fact, this has been a wake-up call to me and I have comissioned a geek to see if he can produce my bare needs from the iq feed. All I need is price, bid/ask volume including a sizing filter, s& r and momentum. It cannot be all that difficult.
 
Quote from commanderco:

In fact, this has been a wake-up call to me and I have comissioned a geek to see if he can produce my bare needs from the iq feed. All I need is price, bid/ask volume including a sizing filter, s& r and momentum. It cannot be all that difficult.


Your missing the point totally.......I thought you may have some datafeed problems or computational errors with your Inv R/T/MD charting (like some of the other posters here)??? :confused:

Nevermind dude......have a great life as I have now been banished into GEEK land!!!! :eek:

:D :D :D


btw, your current charting already does everything you want. :D and it is not that difficult to find.




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I've used IRT for 3 years and have used that system thru revisions/bugs,etc. I can help with questions regarding datafeed,etc In return, I'd appreciate your insights on the new feature of it which is the package u are talking about. I got the email from Dr. Linn about it and did not bother with it . Now that you guys seem to rave about it , my curiosity is piqued. (Especially the part about signalling the lo of day hi of day - which is something of consequence for us traders...LOL).

Regarding IRT-Don't give up on it. IT is an awesome product. IF you get a handle on how it accumulates ticks/bars thru intra vs. daily monitoring, you would get rid of 70% of stuck quotes, slow cpu furstration. Get a handle on symbol limits unique to your data feed and you eat up another 15% of your "bugs"

I've used IRT with IB, esignal, mytrack, dtn. In order of preference w/o taking cost into consideration.

MT,Esig,DTN,IB.

The weakness of IB in gathering data is its storng points when doing the scans. They are fast since the ticks are in your c drive not thru internet. Again studying the data capture features of IRT will eliminate most of issues.
 
Thanks for the feedback.

I've tried 24 hours and it still doesn't work. Gives me a different set of numbers though.

Quote from MidKnight:

billp,

with regard to issue 3, does it work any better when not that chart is not assigned to the 24 hour session? I've only experienced what you show there when my assigned session for that chart / instrument is incorrect.

If that makes no difference...then I have no idea on that one - sorry.

Kind regards,
MK
 
Midknight,

Thanks for the feedback.
Am a bit confused though and appreciate your clarification.

So you pull up a 1 minute chart and press the spacebar to download, then from there choose download tick? It will then convert the tick data to 1 minute candlestick chart?

I tried doing that but got some problems. Maybe I have uninstalled and installed the program too many times and using different links as provided by Trevor. As of now, I can't even find the program in the add/remove program list anymore although I can still open it using the icon on my desktop. I remembered when I first uninstalled it, I could still find it in the 'add/remove program'.


I strongly suspect I will give this software up soon. I've not found it that useful yet as I'm still learning the delta. Thus, I'm not sure whether I really want to spend the time and effort on this software/IT thing as I have not found the usefulness of delta yet. Not saying that the delta is useless, its just that weighing the time, effort in understanding Investor R/T-marketdelta software may not be worth it if I ultimately cannot make a strategy out of the delta or get the delta to help in my trading. Ok, flaming, advise welcome.



Quote from MidKnight:

Billp,

With regard to issue #4 question. My understanding from this is as follows.

When you download data on a minute chart, it downloads minute data. When you download data on a tick chart, it downloads tick etc... However, it is also my understanding that if you download tick data for the current day, then it would also update your minute charts by converting that tick data into minute data This is all I do every day is download the tick data and my delta charts, market profile, and minute charts are updated. Daily data is not and I need to request the daily data separately.

Switching charting software is always a pain because we become so intimately familar with the paradigms of the 'other' package. Makes the learning curve seem steeper.

kind regards,
MK
 
Midknight,

I guess you are not asking this question now based on the edit statement?

Quote from MidKnight:

Just one more question pls billp. Can you pretty much make data comparisons like that across your normal charts with the VB indicator vs. the delta chart on any bar and still these anomolies or are they far and few between? I just compared the VB indicator with the delta chart on a random bar and it seemed to match up as I would have expected....

http://charts.dacharts.com/2006-08-12/delta_ex.png

Kindest wishes,
MK


** EDIT **

I take that back...i see a lot of anomolies with this...I'll contact linnsoft about this on Monday. Thx for pointing that out.
 
Quote from 5Pillars:

NOBODY has the MP, MD, and "Volume Breakdown" tools all in one package......I commend Inv R/T & MD for putting all this together in one package that is currently at the infancy of a new joint relationship!!! Just wait and see how they grow together as the product becomes more advanced. This charting is the new "king of the hill" imo with all the combined features and capabilities.
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I somewhat disagree with this. I use TopGun Software and while they don't have a market delta 'footprint' they do let you break down the buying/selling by the world's biggest traders which I feel is far more useful. In S&P's for example I can compare how much the 100 lot traders are buying/selling on each bar compared to the statistical avg of the past. I can also look at the Volume Profile charts for any time frame up to weekly and see where the BIG guys have traded in the past. It's far better support/resistance than high volume areas WITHOUT the large traders there. They do often DEFEND these areas when price comes back.

In addition their software is only one that shows how much buying/selling is going on in the CASH market. Market Delta and Linnsoft don't show you how much the stocks are being bought today compared to the statistical past for EACH bar.

No comparison in my book. By the way some days there is heavy buying in the stocks while the 100 lot S&P futures traders are heavily selling. THese days tend to be very choppy for the first hour. Users of normal bid/ask software will be selling waiting for a breakdown in the market. In my experience on these days the Institutions who are buying the stocks are usually right and the market breaks UP, leaving all you guys with losing positions.

Chris
 
Quote from leveragefx:

I somewhat disagree with this. I use TopGun Software and while they don't have a market delta 'footprint' they do let you break down the buying/selling by the world's biggest traders which I feel is far more useful. In S&P's for example I can compare how much the 100 lot traders are buying/selling on each bar compared to the statistical avg of the past. I can also look at the Volume Profile charts for any time frame up to weekly and see where the BIG guys have traded in the past. It's far better support/resistance than high volume areas WITHOUT the large traders there. They do often DEFEND these areas when price comes back.

In addition their software is only one that shows how much buying/selling is going on in the CASH market. Market Delta and Linnsoft don't show you how much the stocks are being bought today compared to the statistical past for EACH bar.

No comparison in my book. By the way some days there is heavy buying in the stocks while the 100 lot S&P futures traders are heavily selling. THese days tend to be very choppy for the first hour. Users of normal bid/ask software will be selling waiting for a breakdown in the market. In my experience on these days the Institutions who are buying the stocks are usually right and the market breaks UP, leaving all you guys with losing positions.

Chris


I looked at TopGunSoftware and the concept is not bad at all....but for me I am a "market profile" and "market delta" fundamentalist, so I already have profitable systems that I have developed combining the two methods. I analyze my own custom time period market profile charts with Inv R/T to then plot key price levels that I look for delta based trades at (I sold the 1336.00 level twice yesterday due to earlier in the year MP level significance). I also do have one ES MD chart "filtered" to only read the bigger lot traders, mainly to spot "accumulations" for their position trades or equities hedging. I have also found that my entries are much sooner in a move through the use of the "footprint" charts, which benefits the placement of my position at a more optimal price level for proper R to R.

I have my methods for tracking the cash markets through OEX tracking, Adv/Dec lines, TICK, etc., so that I can see when program trading that I have studied ( www.programtrading.com ) is prevalent. Institutional activity is pretty straight forward these days, and they are not very good at "masking" their intentions as in the past.......technology for the "little guy" has made this "unmasking" possible.
 
With all due respect this thread is intended for traders who are transitioning to the new version of Market Delta.

Please take your pissing contests elsewhere.
 
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