Mark Brown and his Snowball Strategy

[The Swordsman]

Well said....some think that because they cant make trading the Hershey method work for them that it doesnt work...so they go the backtesting route and delude themselves about how superior their computers are to their own minds.

read the above, its basically your statement from the other point of view...think about it numbnuts.

Quote from Trader666:

Well said... some think that because they can't make backtesting work for them that it doesn't work... so they go the discretionary route and delude themselves about how superior their "beautiful minds" are to computers.

 

[MarkBrown]

Quote from The Swordsman:

Well said....some think that because they cant make trading the Hershey method work for them that it doesnt work...so they go the backtesting route and delude themselves about how superior their computers are to their own minds.

read the above, its basically your statement from the other point of view...think about it numbnuts.

ok the difference is that a computer has to have rules.

which is something that jack isn't giving out. 1 to 100 write down the rules otherwise you have shit.

even the beautiful mind i worked for, diligently told me anything and everything in a effort to make a system. he never realized so many things he did he took for granted. but eventually all the rules come out - if you know what your doing.

if your learning as your going then of course you don't know shit and your not a qualified mentor as spydertrader claims to be.

mb

 

[Trader666]

I was wondering how long it would take for one of you unoriginal dimwits to fire up both of your brain cells and try to reverse one of my arguments against me. Write your own material! Geez...

Quote from The Swordsman:

Well said....some think that because they cant make trading the Hershey method work for them that it doesnt work...so they go the backtesting route and delude themselves about how superior their computers are to their own minds.

read the above, its basically your statement from the other point of view...think about it numbnuts.

 

[The Swordsman]

Fine then, do explain why your statement isnt hypocritical then?

Quote from Trader666:

I was wondering how long it would take for one of you unoriginal dimwits to fire up both of your brain cells and try to reverse one of my arguments against me. Write your own material! Geez...

 

[Trader666]

YOU made the claims, so why should I pay you even one cent to back them up? Come on bigshot, show us all how great you are!!!

Quote from Steve Tvardek:

Haha, fairy tales. Thats a good one. Go right ahead and call my old firm, Hold Brothers, and ask them about me. I'll tell you what, I will provide audited results for you, and if I do, you give me a grand for my troubles. I mean, if you are going to call me out here as a liar, certainly proving you wrong warrants some compensation wouldnt you say.

You just say the word and we can set up this little arrangement. If I dont provide them, I will give you a grand. How does that sound?

 

[Steve Tvardek]

The difference is, I am succeeding against computers, people, whoever else. Im not belittleing anything. All I'm saying is that my thought processes are so complex that I dont think I can replicate my success, consistency wise, through trying to code it up. There are too many variables, subtle or otherwise to account for.

And mark, I honestly dont care one iota if you "lost respect" or whatever for me. You arent even on my radar, the only thing I care about is continued success and beyond in the trading game. You do things your way and I'll do them mine. But you sure as heck wont hear me calling you small minded or an idiot for doing things your way like you did me.

Quote from MarkBrown:

steve i was respecting you until you went off the deep end with the above statements. look i worked the the greatest discretionary trader who will ever live a man named stan finney.

so i know a beautiful mind, i worked for a beautiful mind, i acknowledge that a beautiful mind exist.

but you and the bunch you run with just can't admit that a computer can beat you. do you know why i worked for a beautiful mind - because he knew a computer could one day beat him and he wanted that new edge.

testing stuff as you put it is far harder than looking at and arriving at some conclusion that a ten year old can also come to. ask any child what direction the price is going on a chart up or down and they will tell you the same thing your so proud you know.

i hate to say this but this is the truth, you have simple skills with computers and software it shows like jacks age. you want to belittle anything you can't accomplish yourself. your a sad little person, not to say you aren't making money. i will not say anything against your claims of making money. i just say your the idiot for not opening your mind and considering that you can do better than you are by using a computer to mechanize your thoughts into a system.

mb

 

[MarkBrown]

Quote from Trader666:

YOU made the claims, so why should I pay you even one cent to back them up? Come on bigshot, show us all how great you are!!!

of all the anti mark brown bunch how many of you have a independently audited profitable public track record? only me! i am the only one among you - show me one other person who has a profitable verifiable independently audited public track record who will say something bad about my trading. oh what's that there are none.

see my nfa record - clean - jack's cult and member's over there have any professionals? nope not a one. any cta's or fund managers over there? no not a one. wow AMATEUR HOUR at sydertrades journal.

so for now on if your are foe - where's your track record. otherwise you need to take a back seat and listen. if your not a foe but you don't know something ask, i will be happy to tell you what i do know and not belittle you for it.

mb

 

[Trader666]

Look... I've read enough of your posts to see that you're not ready to understand my explanation even if I did take the time to spoon feed it to you. So kindly crawl back to Candyland, suck on the grape kool-aid bottle, and beg for clues. When you can admit to yourself that you've been duped, go back and read some of my analyses and THEN get back to me.

Quote from The Swordsman:

Fine then, do explain why your statement isnt hypocritical then?

 

[MarkBrown]

Quote from Steve Tvardek: But you sure as heck wont hear me calling you small minded or an idiot for doing things your way like you did me.

i apologize here for calling you an idiot but you belittled and ridiculed everything i have worked for which is computerized trading. it is very hard work and you insulted me so i lashed out at you. i did not make fun or light of your methods but you bashed mine. so i called you an idiot cause i figured you had it coming, i again apologize for it.

mb

ps if all the people who dint' care about mark brown being on their radar would move on or be polite then we would be better off. else i will go to spydertraders journal and give you guys some of your own medicine, after i put a prophylactic over my pointer finger.

 

[The Swordsman]

I see...this is your way of saying "eh, actually I dont have a legitmate reason for my hypocracy and I refuse to actually think about how illogical my previous statement was. I chose to bury my head in the sand and pretend I didnt say what I did".

Cmon Trader666, I turned your statement around word for word with the opposite viewpoint and that spoon feeding still didnt crack your skull. I guess I can see why you continue to struggle

Quote from Trader666:

Look... I've read enough of your posts to see that you're not ready to understand my explanation even if I did take the time to spoon feed it to you. So kindly crawl back to Candyland, suck on the grape kool-aid bottle, and beg for clues. When you can admit to yourself that you've been duped, go back and read some of my analyses and THEN get back to me.