Margin calc interpretation

[marsman]

For a guy touting a riskless options strategy, your understanding of options isn't very good.

Where have you got that riskless stuff from?
Some spread and other multi-leg trades can indeed be riskless, but it's not easy to get a fill.

 

[donnap]

Ie. 25k margin for a net credit of just $1k ? Is that fair?

It's not a matter of what's fair. The margin for selling options is arbitrary. What would be fair is if the margin was only the market price of the options.

But brokers have to protect themselves from traders that go overboard with leverage. So they set a higher margin. This is based on a history of some traders losing large amounts and brokers may lose as well when traders go bankrupt.

We all "pay" for that.

But it is the rules of the playing field. Like it or not, it's what you get.

 

[newwurldmn]

Where have you got that riskless stuff from?
Some spread and other multi-leg trades can indeed be riskless, but it's not easy to get a fill.

marsman said:
Hi Neke,
I read the one harsh crictic posted by someone else today in your journal thread who compared your result to that of a gambler.
I can help you to make only winning trades. If done right, then the worst would be to have a PL=0 of a trade by hedging the losing trade.
Ie. no losses anymore plus very big weekly wins, like > 10% per week, sometimes even more than 20% or 30% per week, as shown in my previous posting here.
My scanner finds realtime/neartime such very lucrative trades.
I would like to offer you my help for you making better trades.
Would you be interessted in such a cooperation?

Thx

 

[marsman]

@newwurldmn
FYI: PL=0 does not mean riskless as one loses the possibility of a profit, ie. one pays the so called opportunity cost.
Dictionary definition: the loss of potential gain from other alternatives when one alternative is chosen.

 

[newwurldmn]

@newwurldmn
FYI: PL=0 does not mean riskless as one loses the possibility of a profit, ie. one pays the so called opportunity cost.

PL>=0 is exactly the definition of riskless.

 

[marsman]

PL>=0 is exactly the definition of riskless.

It depends whom you ask...
Read the "opportunity cost" definition at wiki or in other dictionaries.
Because: imagine you make always a profit because say you are a shop owner, and then you try a more lucrative deal, but it unfortunately doesn't work out and you get out of the deal with 0 profit.
So, your PL is 0, but still you made a loss, because with your normal strategy the PL would be most probably > 0 like was the case all the time in the past...

 

[newwurldmn]

It depends whom you ask...
Read the "opportunity cost" definition at wiki or in other dictionaries.

Riskless means without risk (not over some arbitrary opportunity cost).

I look forward to hearing more about your arbitrage call selling strategy.

 

[marsman]

I look forward to hear more about your arbitrage call selling strategy.

Have I ever announced anything like that? Maybe I'm getting older...
I'm currently fixated in Put selling because IMO it has some significant advantages over Call selling.

 

[newwurldmn]

Have I ever announced anything like that? Maybe I'm getting older...

Perhaps senile too.

 

[marsman]

Perhaps senile too.

Yeah right, that word escaped me...