March 9 2017: Obamas brother releases Birth Certificate.......Kenyan Born.

fhl said:
The fine print says there is no evidence of a trump russia connection. At the end of all the articles you read.
And Sheriff Arpiao says there is evidence of the bc being fake.

And you are a liar to insinuate otherwise.
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Many people close to the trump campaign met with the Russians behind close doors then tried to keep these meetings secret. Because they met means there is a connection but what that connection is about is not clear. At this point only the FBI might have answers and any article that you read that says they know is bogus. Maybe they were talking about Hockey or Vodka or maybe they were talking about a tit for tat. The only reason someone would still care whether Obamas bc is fake is because they are still looking for reasons to hate him and discredit him.
 
iamdom said:
Many people close to the trump campaign met with the Russians behind close doors then tried to keep these meetings secret. Because they met means there is a connection but what that connection is about is not clear. At this point only the FBI might have answers and any article that you read that says they know is bogus. Maybe they were talking about Hockey or Vodka or maybe they were talking about a tit for tat. The only reason someone would still care whether Obamas bc is fake is because they are still looking for reasons to hate him and discredit him.
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iamdom said:
Many people close to the trump campaign met with the Russians behind close doors then tried to keep these meetings secret. Because they met means there is a connection but what that connection is about is not clear. At this point only the FBI might have answers and any article that you read that says they know is bogus. Maybe they were talking about Hockey or Vodka or maybe they were talking about a tit for tat. The only reason someone would still care whether Obamas bc is fake is because they are still looking for reasons to hate him and discredit him.
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Tit for tat?

What is tat and where do I get it?
 
iamdom said:
What is remarkable fantastic and very sad is that the right wing in America suffers from a collapsed rationality. How is it possible that when there is so much objective evidence against someone like Trump, their hero, they simply ignore it and call it fake. No matter what the evidence they will disagree and reject it. But the slightest shred of evidence of a very questionable nature that supports their beliefs becomes true 100 percent and beyond question. Trump says with scant evidence that Obama wire tapped him and its true and beyond question. The FBI says there is reason to believe Trump and Russia are in bed together and it is 100 percent false. How is it possible that a human mind can operate oblivious to the objective facts. If you ask an anorexic who is dying of starvation to look in the mirror and ask them what they see, they will think they are fat. They are skin and bones but they still think they are over weight. This is what we are dealing with when in comes to extremism whether it be a terrorist or a right wing fanatic. In these cases the emotional primitive center of the brain has hijacked the rational outer cortex. You are no longer able to act or see objectively because what you see is automatically filtered through your beliefs so can only see your beliefs and everything and anything can only exist in as much as it supports your beliefs. Remarkable that a human mind can operate blindly like a computer running its program. These people can be highly intelligent but they lack awareness and act and think automatically. They may catch a lie on CNN but everything FOX says, as long as it supports their beliefs, is the gospel truth. These people are not free, they are slaves to their beliefs. I write for those for whom there is hope not for those too far gone. Strive to stay balanced and avoid extremism of any kind. .
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very well said. However I am not convinced this has much to do with right-leaning politics. It seems, in my experience, it is a human trait we are dealing with, and it is independent of politics. If, when you have time, you think about what you have so competently written, I will guess you will realize that there is no fundamental reason, not one we can think of anyway, why this innate proclivity of ours should depend on our politics. If it does, then we ought to examine why. My best guess is that regardless of our politics we will react similarly. We should be equally receptive to hijacking of our 'outer rational cortex', independent of whether our 'belief' system is ingrained as right or left. If I am not correct here, then we have stumbled upon something quite profound.

A most interesting thing to me is the observation that some individuals are able to quite easily transcend their natural proclivities, where others can only do so with great difficulty. I have thought that education, not job training but education, buttresses our ability to do that. But I don't know if I am correct.
 
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fhl said:
The fine print says there is no evidence of a trump russia connection. At the end of all the articles you read.
And Sheriff Arpiao says there is evidence of the bc being fake.

And you are a liar to insinuate otherwise.
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You realize of course that Sheriff Arpiao is not the only one who says so! That surely gives his statement great weight, don't you think? :rolleyes:
 
piezoe said:
very well said. However I am not convinced this has much to do with right-leaning politics. It seems, in my experience, it is a human trait we are dealing with and it is independent of politics. If, when you have time, you think about what you have so competently written, I will guess that you will realize that there is no fundamental reason, not one we can think of anyway, why this innate proclivity of ours should depend on our politics. If it does, then we ought to examine why. My best guess is that regardless of our politics we will react similarly. We should be equally receptive to hijacking of our 'outer rational cortex', independent of whether or 'belief' system is ingrained as right or left. If I am not correct here, then we have stumbled upon something quite profound.

A most interesting thing to me is the observation that some individuals are able to quite easily transcend their natural proclivities, where others can only do so with great difficulty. I have thought that education, not job training but education, buttresses our ability to do that. But I don't know if I am correct.
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Yes its extremism with regard to any belief, not just politics. It could be a hatred of Homosexuals or Blacks. There are people on the left who are fanatical. Its about protecting our ego and trying to feel good, about having a purpose or reason. Whether you become a terrorist or a gang member in LA, its about belonging and feeling good. We need to feel good about ourselves and sometimes hating another person does the trick.
Education helps but its not the answer. University Professors, Doctors are not immune to this. Its a human trait related to addiction.
 
iamdom said:
in your case its tit for twat
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I couldn't tell if your post was serious, satirical or an attempt at comedy. If it was the later, it failed and I was just trying to help.

Btw, in your context, tat must contain some type of monetary or bargaining power. When exchanging tit for tat, I'd expect twat in reciving tit, well maybe, for a little more tat.o_O
 
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