Manchin says he will not vote for Build Back Better: 'This is a no'

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Extreme liberal progressive Democrats doubling down on their stupidity. So, they want to continue attacking Senator Joe Manchin? Don't worry fools, I will do my utmost to urge him to leave the Democrat Party and be a Republican instead. That would end any extreme liberal bills being passed in the Senate. At a minimum, I will urge him to vote against the Build Back BS 2.0 bill of theirs to cement their utter failure.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/586686-democrats-set-to-play-hardball-with-manchin

 

[Cuddles]

 

[Tony Stark]

For the record I'm glad BBB didn't pass and I wish the infrastructure bill hadn't passed.Biden is spending to much fucking money.Obama got the economy on track with his 700 billion stimulus.Bill Clinton had one of the best economies ever and he spent a fraction of 700 billion.This fucking moron Biden is trying to spend over 5 trillion.

At this point I'm glad they didn't get rid of the filibuster considering republicans will have all 3 branches in 2024.

 

[Arnie]

Piehole will be along shortly to straighten you out.

 

[Cuddles]

For the record I'm glad BBB didn't pass and I wish the infrastructure bill hadn't passed.Biden is spending to much fucking money.Obama got the economy on track with his 700 billion stimulus.Bill Clinton had one of the best economies ever and he spent a fraction of 700 billion.This fucking moron Biden is trying to spend over 5 trillion.

At this point I'm glad they didn't get rid of the filibuster considering republicans will have all 3 branches in 2024.

So you're against Trump fixing immigration/DACA in exchange for wall funding, and against immigration/DACA getting fixed through bill passage now that dems are in control too? You realize infra was peanuts and a big chunk reallocated from COVID relief? Trump's QE went to big corp, little guy got a few checks in the mail. Child tax credits are going bye-bye too, no drug negotiations, no paid leave, no SBA, no universal pre-k, no affordable housing, no going back to Obama corp. tax brackets, or climate anything.

This fantasy that Biden is spending too much money is a fox talking point and ignores Trump's reckless spending and gutting of treasury revenues.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Some of these union clowns are playing a dangerous game while CNN types cheer them on.

The strategy to try to undermine Manchin on the home front and try to get him to come around.

What they are doing is telling him that the dem union coal miners will work against him- thus giving him one more reason think more about leaving the dem party when the dem apparatus and network is against him and has him in the crosshairs.

Joe Manchin is probably the only person in the dem party standing up coal miners and every dem candidate for president in the couple cycles has said they will put coal miners out of business. Some of those union clowns might want to think this through a bit. OR NOT. Who gives a fuck. Do what you gotta so. The entire dem party is like a giant shake n' bake bag now. Keep shakin it and watch it get crazier and crazier.

Biden sent his union honcho mafia buddies out to talk to the union honchos in W.V. and let them know that they need to get with the program.

Coal miners want Joe Manchin to reverse opposition to Build Back Better



https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/21/business/coal-miners-joe-manchin/index.html

 

[Mercor]

So you're against Trump fixing immigration/DACA in exchange for a wall, and against immigration/DACA getting fixed through bill passage now that dems are in control too? You realize infra was peanuts and a big chunk reallocated from COVID relief? Trump's QE went to big corp, little guy got a few checks in the mail. Child tax credits are going bye-bye too, no drug negotiations, no paid leave, no SBA, no universal pre-k, no affordable housing, no going back to Obama corp. tax brackets, or climate anything.

This fantasy that Biden is spending too much money is a fox talking point and ignores Trump's reckless spending and gutting of treasury revenues.

The left always blame the messaging and not the policy

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/why-k...charlamagne-tha-god-s-biden-question-n1286346
An NPR/Marist poll released in December had some sobering numbers. While 4 in 5 of those who received direct one-off Covid relief checks earlier this year said they helped at least a little, only a quarter of people said it helped a lot. The survey also found that the percentage of households reporting they received the child tax credit is significantly lower than the percentage of households eligible for the tax credit, raising the question of whether some of them didn't know they were receiving enhanced support as the product of a Biden policy. Moreover, two-thirds said the tax credit only helped them a little.

The survey also found that Biden isn’t receiving credit for bills he’s pushed for. Per NPR’s analysis of the poll:

When it came to those direct payments, respondents gave Democrats in Congress a plurality of the credit for getting them to people (40%), while 17%, credited Republicans — even though zero congressional Republicans voted for the March relief bill.

The same percentage — just 17% — felt Biden was most responsible for sending the cash.

"It doesn't look like he's leading the charge even though it's his bill," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion.

"It's an issue of the messaging out of the White House," Miringoff said.

Those numbers aren't all bad for the Democrats; it’s at least good that congressional Democrats are receiving significant credit for policies they passed. But the fact that the Biden administration is getting as much credit as Republicans who tried to block a bill he lobbied for isn’t promising, especially given how Republicans will make the midterm elections a referendum on Biden’s leadership.

That NPR/Marist poll isn’t an outlier. Plenty of of other surveys have found that voters who have personally benefited from Biden’s policies don’t think they have, and don’t readily give him credit for his own policy wins.

 

[Cuddles]

The left always blame the messaging and not the policy

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/why-k...charlamagne-tha-god-s-biden-question-n1286346
An NPR/Marist poll released in December had some sobering numbers. While 4 in 5 of those who received direct one-off Covid relief checks earlier this year said they helped at least a little, only a quarter of people said it helped a lot. The survey also found that the percentage of households reporting they received the child tax credit is significantly lower than the percentage of households eligible for the tax credit, raising the question of whether some of them didn't know they were receiving enhanced support as the product of a Biden policy. Moreover, two-thirds said the tax credit only helped them a little.

The survey also found that Biden isn’t receiving credit for bills he’s pushed for. Per NPR’s analysis of the poll:

When it came to those direct payments, respondents gave Democrats in Congress a plurality of the credit for getting them to people (40%), while 17%, credited Republicans — even though zero congressional Republicans voted for the March relief bill.

The same percentage — just 17% — felt Biden was most responsible for sending the cash.

"It doesn't look like he's leading the charge even though it's his bill," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion.

"It's an issue of the messaging out of the White House," Miringoff said.

Those numbers aren't all bad for the Democrats; it’s at least good that congressional Democrats are receiving significant credit for policies they passed. But the fact that the Biden administration is getting as much credit as Republicans who tried to block a bill he lobbied for isn’t promising, especially given how Republicans will make the midterm elections a referendum on Biden’s leadership.

That NPR/Marist poll isn’t an outlier. Plenty of of other surveys have found that voters who have personally benefited from Biden’s policies don’t think they have, and don’t readily give him credit for his own policy wins.

What message is that? That Trump sent out two checks to Biden's means tested single one, making Trump a bigger socialist?

 

[Tony Stark]

So you're against Trump fixing immigration/DACA in exchange for wall funding, and against immigration/DACA getting fixed through bill passage now that dems are in control too? You realize infra was peanuts and a big chunk reallocated from COVID relief? Trump's QE went to big corp, little guy got a few checks in the mail. Child tax credits are going bye-bye too, no drug negotiations, no paid leave, no SBA, no universal pre-k, no affordable housing, no going back to Obama corp. tax brackets, or climate anything.

This fantasy that Biden is spending too much money is a fox talking point and ignores Trump's reckless spending and gutting of treasury revenues.

I am for Obama/ Clinton type democrat presidencys.

Balanced budget/budget surplus.

Cut military spending.

Increased taxes on the rich.

Big advances toward every American having healthcare

Pay for your spending programs.

 

[Tony Stark]

no going back to Obama corp. tax brackets, .

In what Biden bill are we going back to Obama tax brackets.I thought Manchin and Senima told him no to that and he backed off like the weak president he is.