Managing stress and low energy levels

[dtrader98]

Try NeilMed Sinus Rinse (over the counter). I almost laughed when someone told me you could breath water in and clean out your nose. It worked wonders.
http://www.neilmed.com/usa/index.php

Well worth trying for 12 or 13 bucks IMO.

Quote from achilles28:

Jack,

What would you recommend for a guy who can't breath through his nose?

I've done some research into deep breathing, practiced it myself and saw huge benefits (when it worked!). Relaxation, attitude, mood, focus, confidence - all dramatic improvements.

The thing is, I've got chronic rhinitis (sinus constantly blocked/mouth-breather). No detectable allergies etc. Seems the only option is surgery - turbinate reduction. But there's a complication of having 'too much' tissue removed and Empty Nose Syndrome.

Anyway, your diagram was quite insightful. The medical community and broader population is hugely ignorant to the profound impact deep, FULL breathing has on human physiology and psychology. The few times it worked for me, the result was nothing short of great.

Btw, most of the symptoms in the sidebar apply to me - tired after sleep, frequent urination, no energy - except the losses

 

[achilles28]

Quote from dtrader98:

Try NeilMed Sinus Rinse (over the counter). I almost laughed when someone told me you could breath water in and clean out your nose. It worked wonders.
http://www.neilmed.com/usa/index.php

Well worth trying for 12 or 13 bucks IMO.

Yea, I already tried that. Tried pretty much everything - anti-histamines, neilmed, allergy test. No luck. Weird feeling tho, eh? Water squirting from a nostril.... lol

 

[dtrader98]

Quote from achilles28:

Yea, I already tried that. Tried pretty much everything - anti-histamines, neilmed, allergy test. No luck. Weird feeling tho, eh? Water squirting from a nostril....

I recently watched a program called doctors that is aired nightly. They discussed a modern technique using some type of a very precise electocautery technique to reduce turbinate blockage. Don't know if it's useful to your case, but-- in about 2 minutes they were done and she said she was able to breathe again. And it looked
pretty fast and painless.

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[achilles28]

Quote from dtrader98:

I recently watched a program called doctors that is aired nightly. They discussed a modern technique using some type of a very precise laser to clear out sinal blockage. The girl on the program had problems similar to yours, and they applied it on the show-- in about 2 minutes they were done and she said she was able to breathe again. They also said it works very well long term. You might want to look into it.

Yea, thats the turbinate reduction surgery I mentioned in a prior post. Basically, an ENT goes in with a cauterizing tool (laser or heat) and coblates the tiny organs (turbinates) inside the sinus cavity. Problem with that - there's an under-reported complication called Empty Nose Syndrome many experience where incoming air feels painfully cold or dry, some patients experience a hollowed-out feeling in the nose/frontal face area (hence the name "empty nose syndrome"), sensations of taking in too much air/hyperventilation, which leads to secondary psychological effects of depression, anxiety, insomnia. etc. The turbinates act as the bodies humidifier/heater and "flow regulator" to the air we breath. They regulate body heat, humidity levels but also help the body feel when its inhaled "too much". Complicated. Sort of like Tonsils or the appendix. "Modern" medicine couldn't discern a use for the organ so they labeled them obsolete or an evolutionary remnant. And lo and behold, they're not. Support healthy immune system function etc. Same with the turbs.

Its a catch 22. A lot of people get the surgery and its helps. Then maybe 5-10% get it (or more, who knows?), and report ENT, which can be debilitating. Gonna see a US specialist soon for opinion.

 

[dtrader98]

That's interesting. Sounds like you've done a lot of research. Reminds me of how a few patients had side effects from lasik that were horrible. I went to one of the best surgeons known for this and they basically had three independent opthamologists verify whether or not the operation would be risky. All agreed I was a very highly qualified candidate, and I had fantastic results ever since. Everything is a trade-off : risk vs. reward, but hopefully the odds are worth it.

Good Luck.

Quote from achilles28:

Yea, thats the turbinate reduction surgery I mentioned in a prior post. Basically, an ENT goes in with a cauterizing tool (laser or heat) and coblates the tiny organs (turbinates) inside the sinus cavity. Problem with that - there's an under-reported complication called Empty Nose Syndrome many experience where incoming air feels painfully cold or dry, some patients experience a complete hollowed-out feeling in the nose/frontal face area (hence the name "empty nose syndrome"), sensations of taking in too much air/hyperventilation, which leads to secondary psychological effects of depression, anxiety, insomnia. etc.

Its a catch 22. A lot of people get the surgery and its helps. Then maybe 5-10% get it (or more, who knows?), and report ENT, which can be debilitating. Gonna see a US specialist soon for opinion.

 

[achilles28]

Quote from dtrader98:

That's interesting. Sounds like you've done a lot of research. Reminds me of how a few patients had side effects from lasik that were horrible. I went to one of the best surgeons known for this and they basically had three independent opthamologists verify whether or not the operation would be risky. All agreed I was a very highly qualified candidate, and I had fantastic results ever since. Everything is a trade-off : risk vs. reward, but hopefully the odds are worth it.

Good Luck.

Thanks bro. Yea, you're right. Its all risk versus reward

I plan the same - get 3 or 4 opinions from top guys then make a decision based on that. Cheers.

 

[johnpinochet]

Quote from achilles28:

Jack,

What would you recommend for a guy who can't breath through his nose?

I've done some research into deep breathing, practiced it myself and saw huge benefits (when it worked!). Relaxation, attitude, mood, focus, confidence - all dramatic improvements.

The thing is, I've got chronic rhinitis (sinus constantly blocked/mouth-breather). No detectable allergies etc. Seems the only option is surgery - turbinate reduction. But there's a complication of having 'too much' tissue removed and Empty Nose Syndrome.

Anyway, your diagram was quite insightful. The medical community and broader population is hugely ignorant to the profound impact deep, FULL breathing has on human physiology and psychology. The few times it worked for me, the result was nothing short of great.

Btw, most of the symptoms in the sidebar apply to me - tired after sleep, frequent urination, no energy - except the losses

achilles28,

Would you be able to elaborate on your research into deep breathing, in particular books, or article links would be great. Your post struck a chord with me.

Regards,

John

 

[jack hershey]

Quote from achilles28:

Jack,

What would you recommend for a guy who can't breath through his nose?

I've done some research into deep breathing, practiced it myself and saw huge benefits (when it worked!). Relaxation, attitude, mood, focus, confidence - all dramatic improvements.

The thing is, I've got chronic rhinitis (sinus constantly blocked/mouth-breather). No detectable allergies etc. Seems the only option is surgery - turbinate reduction. But there's a complication of having 'too much' tissue removed and Empty Nose Syndrome.

Anyway, your diagram was quite insightful. The medical community and broader population is hugely ignorant to the profound impact deep, FULL breathing has on human physiology and psychology. The few times it worked for me, the result was nothing short of great.

Btw, most of the symptoms in the sidebar apply to me - tired after sleep, frequent urination, no energy - except the losses

Here is the path for you I took it already.

Get a couple of books for context.

Bill Moyers "Healing and the Mind"

and David Eisenberg's "Encounters with Qi"

Now you are ready to roll and get well.

My Tia Chi and Yoga instructor learned from and regularly visits the places in China in those books. The instructor she learned from is the leading Tia Chi guy mentioned. So I am lucky.

Do Tia Chi; there are 107 elements; by the time you get the first 7 installed you have it made. breathing will shape up because of stress reduction, etc....

Also do a form of accupuncture that goes like this.

You are correcting several things. By sharing with the accupuncturist they come to light.

He will put on little balls and claws that go under circles of adhesive tape. No needles. They stick for a week, then two weeks.

Here is an example for me: weight and nose and lungs. week one 10 pounds; next two weeks, etc 4 pounds in two weeks 10, 14, 17, 22 total pounds off etc.... breathing fixed.

Also I am doing the breathing. I am accupunctured so I can do a 17 minute mile walking for four miles with my mouth duct taped shut.

All other times I breath through my mouth.

My tia chi instructor can put anyone on the emwave pc and in 5 minutes she has them at top coherence, low pulse and breathing through their noses. So get an emwave pc and hook it on your ear not your finger.

My cardiologist has worked as a team with my tia chi gal (she is about 80) he is head of the Heart hospital.

They have me in great shape.

All I have going on now is two sereis of surgeries in eye (glacoma pressure is separating my optic nerves from my retinas.) and cancer areas they take off egg shaped globs to prevent the skin cancer from metastisizing. It happens fairly rapidly so keeping inspected and taking biopsies is on going. Laser and #5 scalpel take care of everything. I dislike the weeks of dressings though and the adhesions stink.

Edit: Read "The carbon Dioxide Syndrome" by Jennifer and Russell Stark to get the Bohr Effect understood.

 

[achilles28]

Quote from jack hershey:


He will put on little balls and claws that go under circles of adhesive tape. No needles. They stick for a week, then two weeks.

Here is an example for me: weight and nose and lungs. week one 10 pounds; next two weeks, etc 4 pounds in two weeks 10, 14, 17, 22 total pounds off etc.... breathing fixed.

Also I am doing the breathing. I am accupunctured so I can do a 17 minute mile walking for four miles with my mouth duct taped shut.



Edit: Read "The carbon Dioxide Syndrome" by Jennifer and Russell Stark to get the Bohr Effect understood.

Thanks Jack Tai Chi and acupuncture is something I've investigated, but have yet to go ahead with. Will definitely give it a shot. The books look good, too.

Regarding the "weight and nose and lung" sentence. Was it the acupuncture that led to weight loss? I'm a bit overweight, and recall a breathing coach mention excessive weight impedes full, diaphragmatic breathing.

It sounds like we share something similar - chronic mouth breathers. Was your sinus congestion related to allergies? Did steroids help? Ever consider turbinate reduction surgery?

I was saddened to hear about the cancer and glad you're recovering. My step-father was diagnosed with late stage prostate cancer at 64, had it removed, went on a full herbal/organic diet + exercise, and for all intents and purposes, has "beaten" the disease. He's now a limber 75. God Bless.

 

[ammo]

Quote from achilles28:

Jack,

What would you recommend for a guy who can't breath through his nose?


The thing is, I've got chronic rhinitis (sinus constantly blocked/mouth-breather). No detectable allergies etc. Seems Nose Syndrome.

had 4 years straight of sinus infections,3-4 per year,read an article in 1982 about univ of iowa putting clove of garlic and mold in a petrie dish overnight,next day mold had died. I am not kidding,it's worth a try,take the paper off of a clove of garlic and shove it up your blocked nostril,leave it there for a half hour at a time. When i feel a sinus infection coming on,this stops it and a bad cold turns into a slight runny nose in next day and a half. This also works with a sore throat,just put the garlic between your cheek and gum for 30 minutes. If you dont crush the garlic ,the oil is not released and its not as strong as u would think. edit..i also read around the same time that your nose was like a carburetor and each nostril provided air to the brain ,left or right side, and you dont always breath out of both,it regulates the oxygen to each side of the brain as needed