Managing Mind/Body

To quote Jack's post:

"The classic example is edge trading with singular signal indicators for entry and then not knowing how to handle exits because of fear of losses."

"The three wavelenghts (sic) that coaches and teachers use are related to auditory memory, visual memory and kinesthetic memory."

I didn't see you complain that HIS post was OT. I merely responded to his gambits.

And don't mistake this forum for the Strategy forum. The smartest people on ET post here and we have zero tolerance for illogic and personal bombast. If you can't take care of yourself here with reason, wit, and style, no one will help you. This is a no whining zone.
 
I believe you are confusing intuition and blind intuition.

Jack mentioned hitting a baseball. A batter does a lot of training to
get to the point where he can intuitively nail a ball moving at
96mph. How do you suggest he gets to that point?

"explicit and continual attention" is a pathway to developing intuition.
I'm using your words to answer.

The last part of this post degrades into weird accusations and what appears
to be pent up frustration. Vent it elsewhere please.

Quote from Roanoke:

Finally, I take issue with your assertion that "zoning" is the proper mental state for everyone to trade in. Because it presumptively works for you doesn't mean that it is appropriate for every trader. A zonie is reacting intuitively. That is nice if your "system" is intuitive. Yours is not. It requires explicit and continual attention to a multitude of market parameters. A zonie is not attentive to anomalies which lead to trading opportunities. A zonie is not creating trading ideas on the fly for later analysis (you explicitly told a mentee not to invent). A zonie is a Jack Hershey clone, not his own man managing his own profitably idiosyncratic version of your general approach. And lastly, a zonie is a true believer who doesn't question the fact that no proof is offered to him in support of the validity of the system he is trying to learn.
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I merely referred to various manifestations of zoning and not zoning. As to trading becoming as intuitive as hitting a baseball, what beginning hitter ever "swept":

the ball's current velocity is X

the ball's current spin is Y

the ball's current altitude is Z

the ball's acceleration/deceleration in four dimensions is alpha, beta, gamma, and delta.

You swing at the damned thing! It's visual and kinesthetic. There is absolutely NO kinesthetic element in trading except for your body's responses to your own emotional reactions.
 
Don't think of the poster, think of the logic of the poster. Kings kept court jesters for a reason. I have yet to see much of a reasoned rebuttal to my challenges. Besides, if you didn't have me for an audience, who else would pay attention to you? All I see here is the faithful. And who appointed BA Jack's protector? Let Jack answer for himself!

To cite your self-imposed rules:

"Dissention or disagreement is welcome if presented in a civil
manner and substantiated through an argument that is more
sophisticated than pure personal opinion."

My comments are civil and I presented the best logical arguments I am capable of given the mushiness and intellectual muddiness of the topic.
 
As the thread originator you are not likely to see me complaining that Jack's
post are OT. LOL. Read the lead post (again).

Your other comments are some sort of turf threator something. Not
sure what you are doing besides puffing up your feathers.


Quote from Roanoke:

To quote Jack's post:

"The classic example is edge trading with singular signal indicators for entry and then not knowing how to handle exits because of fear of losses."

"The three wavelenghts (sic) that coaches and teachers use are related to auditory memory, visual memory and kinesthetic memory."

I didn't see you complain that HIS post was OT. I merely responded to his gambits.

And don't mistake this forum for the Strategy forum. The smartest people on ET post here and we have zero tolerance for illogic and personal bombast. If you can't take care of yourself here with reason, wit, and style, no one will help you. This is a no whining zone.
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Now you are getting somewhere Roanoke!

Keep this post as a model for future postings :D.

What does every kid baseball player get told? Keep your eye on
the ball. He is told how to grip the bat. How to stand... the position of
the bat.

Think of a golf swing. There are lots of different aspects to perfect
before you can just swing a perfect swing... then you have the conditions
to consider and how that changes things... distance... etc etc.

You become conscious of something - train it and then benefit
from the practice when it is time to just do it.

It's a paradigm.

This is my particular view on this.

Quote from Roanoke:

I merely referred to various manifestations of zoning and not zoning. As to trading becoming as intuitive as hitting a baseball, what beginning hitter ever "swept":

the ball's current velocity is X

the ball's current spin is Y

the ball's current altitude is Z

the ball's acceleration/deceleration in four dimensions is alpha, beta, gamma, and delta.

You swing at the damned thing! It's visual and kinesthetic. There is absolutely NO kinesthetic element in trading except for your body's responses to your own emotional reactions.
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Look. If you want to participate constructively do so. I described what this
thread is all about in the lead post and I am going to stand by that.
Quote from Roanoke:

I stand by my logical challenges and my "no whining" challenge. You ain't in Kansas on this Forum.
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Put succinctly, the Psych Forum is the graveyard where bullshit comes to die.
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