Manafort’s Guilty Plea

TreeFrogTrader said:
We don't know what Mannafort's total sentencing looks like yet. Okay? This has been discussed but does not seem to sink in for the usual tard suspects.

Judge Ellis has already confirmed that he is coordinating with the sentencing in the other case. So we dont know yet whether Ellis gave him a light sentence because he thinks he deserves a light sentence or whether Ellis has knowledge that Mannafort is going to get twenty years in the other cases and the thought that his four years on top would be about right overall.

You worry excessively about Mannafort not getting enough time or Smollette getting too much. Start asking yourself instead why we have several high level government officials who have actively conspired to overturn the results of a valid election and/or participate in a soft coup so to speak- and we have not even gotten to the prosecution let alone the sentencing. Oh, I see, because bank fraud ten years ago by Mannafort takes priority over that. Got it.
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TreeFrogTrader said:
We don't know what Mannafort's total sentencing looks like yet. Okay? This has been discussed but does not seem to sink in for the usual tard suspects.

Judge Ellis has already confirmed that he is coordinating with the sentencing in the other case. So we dont know yet whether Ellis gave him a light sentence because he thinks he deserves a light sentence or whether Ellis has knowledge that Mannafort is going to get twenty years in the other cases and the thought that his four years on top would be about right overall.

You worry excessively about Mannafort not getting enough time or Smollette getting too much. Start asking yourself instead why we have several high level government officials who have actively conspired to overturn the results of a valid election and/or participate in a soft coup so to speak- and we have not even gotten to the prosecution let alone the sentencing. Oh, I see, because bank fraud ten years ago by Mannafort takes priority over that. Got it.
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My thoughts on this is that his sentences may be longer in the other case and that he deserves 7 years rather than 47 months in this case. The 47 month sentence was probably a strong message to prosecutors that their demanded sentence was absurd.
 
gwb-trading said:
My thoughts on this is that his sentences may be longer in the other case and that he deserves 7 years rather than 47 months in this case. The 47 month sentence was probably a strong message to prosecutors that their demanded sentence was absurd.
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The sentencing rules give the second judge discretion to decide whether his sentence is additive or concurrent with the first sentence.

So some of it will not only be legally technical but also a matter of semantics. So for example if the second judge gives Mannafort ten years then is Mannafort now getting a 14 year sentence cumulative.......or if it is to be served concurrent....is he just getting a six year additional sentence.... whereby four are served concurrent with the four in the first case and then six more additive on top?

We dont know and the second judge may not know his final decision yet either. We just have to hold on a bit.

The tards will just pull something out of their arse next week. The second judge will give Mannafort more and they will all smile like Cheschire cats and say that the second judge saw how light the first sentence was so fixed that. We dont know that. As I said earlier, could easily be the other way round. The first judge may have already concluded that he was in for much more time in the second sentence and lowered his sentence......so that the total package will come out more like eight years or whatever he thinks the total number should be.
 
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gwb-trading said:
My thoughts on this is that his sentences may be longer in the other case and that he deserves 7 years rather than 47 months in this case. The 47 month sentence was probably a strong message to prosecutors that their demanded sentence was absurd.
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so the judge was conflicted
 
vanzandt said:
7.5 years?
Is that concurrent?
Edit: its 43 months additional.
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He'll need something to do.

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IMO adding 3.5 years on these other charges is appropriate. Now the overall prison term is inline with many judicial pundits believe it should be.
 
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