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Definitely a definition issue. That was throwing me off. I was calling the first upswing as a retracement. I am surprised it is called a reversal because I thought a reversal only takes place once trend has reversed with "confirmation". Anything else is just a retracement/pullback.
So when today you mentioned that all 4 of your trades would have been reversals - I get confused because, the 1st short is in the direction of the initial down move. So why are you calling it a reversal?
It's easy to get distracted by jargon. As I said in an earlier post, I rarely trade anything but retracements. I'll trade a reversal only in a trading range. Be that as it may, what you've got here are two trading ranges (very loosely-defined in these cases), one from the open to around 0855 and the second from there to the time you decide to stop trading. The first reversal is at 0835. Since one can't know at the time that a TR is in the offing, he takes the first retracement after this reversal. This retracement takes place at 0837, and the long is entered one point above that. Unfortunately, this doesn't last long and there's another reversal at 0841, then another at 0843 (your higher low), then another at 0845/6 (your lower high). In other words, not only no trend but a sloppy and untradeable TR. Finally there's a reversal at 0850 that sends price out of this TR with a retracement shortly thereafter at 0856 with an entry a point below. But this doesn't go anywhere either, and we end up in another TR. One can't know this ahead of time, of course, or he probably wouldn't have bothered trading at all. But that's the way some days are.
So even though I was entering on retracements, these retracements took place after reversals. If I had known a TR was in the offing, I would have entered on the reversals and not waited on retracements, particularly since there weren't more than a couple of retracements to trade anyway (unless one dropped down to a smaller interval). But you don't know in advance whether you're going to have a TR or a trend (and, in this case, we had neither, since price made a higher low and a lower high).
And while I'm not suggesting cherry-picking, don't try so hard to learn something from this day that you end up learning the wrong things. This was a crummy day. Learn from it what you can or need to, but don't try so hard to make something better out of it that you end up curve-fitting.
Incidentally, you're not the first person to become confused by this retracement/reversal business. That's one reason why I came up with these lines. If price is in a downtrend and pulls back a bit without breaking the resistance line, one can be assured that the pullback is no more than that: a retracement in a downtrend (\/\).
However, if what was thought to be a retracement breaks the resistance line and makes a higher low before continuing upward, then you've got a retracement after a reversal (/\/).
And if that gives you a headache, remember that it doesn't matter what you call it as long as you understand what traders are trying to accomplish. Do that and you'll remain on the right side.
