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WchPl said:
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NB : the bar numbers in the next texts, follow the numbers of the chart, not the log's.


Bar 6 : Aa, P1ass, BM short
Bar 7 : T1, RepBM
Bar 8 : T1/P2, troughs first do not yield turns, RepBM

BUT : you had said :


If bar 6 is an Aa my DD is :
Bar 6 : P1ass, BM short
Bar 7 : close is not above BM so RepBM, volume is DEC so T1. No rtl is built.
Bar 8 : OB on DEC volume, so T1/P2. Close is not above BM so RepBM again. I'd see this bar included inside the trend.
I don't see how this bar could be a PP!.


Bar 9 : Repeat P2. BUT I must admit that the "leftmost" concept passes through my mind at this moment. If I consider the leftmost T1, I have an incrasing volume bar being below this T1, which would make bar 9 an Ab. I don't know why and have no explanation for that, but I feel it would not make sense to see this here. Let's see what's next.

Bar 10 : In the vein of prior paragraph, I could see Ab too, but I better see here a T2P because volume is between P2 and last T1.

Bar 11 : OB with DEC volume with level being below last 2 T1's. I see in the order an Ab LBVO so BM short, and because of the presence of the OB, the upper row would be P1ass; then, being as the bar is also a P1/T1, there is PP4 which assigns P1 to next bar, so to next row, the below one. In the vein of post #991, I'd see here the long trend initiated by te Ab ends when the OB locks in and a short trend begins at its high.

Bar 12 : BMrev, P1ass

Bar 13 : P1 repeat

Bar 14 : T1 and BO of rtl = BO,T1, P1ass, short BM.

Bar 15 : P1 repeat

Bar 16 : T1 between two prior P1's : PP3. BM long and newt bar will be P1 ass.

Bar 17 : P1 ass

Bar 18 : P1 repeat

Bar 19 : third P1 in a row fulfilling requirements for Not PP1. Ac scene is set. rtl is fanned and extended.

Bar 20 : wait

Bar 21 : volume is below leftmost P1 so T1. (drawing non-true rtl)

Bar 22 : by degap we have FTP on DEC volume so wait again.

Bar 23 : volume above last measured bar which was T1 so : P2

Bar 24 : volume between P2 and T1 : T2P.

Bar 25 : StB with UL so we measure volume.
My DD : volume is above prior one so it could be T2P repeat; but it's also above P2 so I'd say this bar is in the rev chron zone and is new P2.

Bar 26 : P2 repeats.

Bar 27 : I see volume is under T1. Last IDd volume element (from my DD) was P2, so I'm in A-band. Only A-band EE can appear. I see that bar fits the definition of Ab LVBO. P1 ass, BM short.
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Your log on the 11:55 bar is devolving.
After a T1 test's as F, there is an X placed in the P1 column so that the trend advances. You have a test for False on P1 after a test on T1 for false, the P1 test is killed on T1 test as False. Sometimes you are doing it correctly later in the logs and others times not. Consistency is key.

The chart is missing the 30m doji.
 
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Simples said:
What if you disregard lat (sub of TF) EE's from MT consideration?
Also, not sure about resetting RTL once established.
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If one isn't finding a n-1 EE on a Set - that is the same as not finding a n EE and the turn type advances.
 
Sprout said:
The lateral fill should be consistent with the current MADA annotation convention. The H and L boundary are also defined by the extreme of bars. For each lateral you have defined one of the boundaries has that definition the other does not.
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Attempt to rectify and to add the 6 more lats zones

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Sprout said:
In so doing bar0 (10:55) would shift the BO,T1 to it instead of bar1.
The two requirements were met on that bar;
1) a rtl was present from the BM and there is a XO of the rtl
2) and there was a T1.

Bar2 then is a PP3 and Bar5 is a BM,rev.
Bar7 is another PP3 which makes Bar8 a PP4.
Bar9 then is a BM,rev and Bar12 is a BO,T1 and a BM,rev.
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Crystal clear

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Sprout said:
I'm not sure what is happening with your bar coloring for bar14 is a XR not an internal and Bar22 would be an FTP when both are degapped. Regardless of what opinions there are about the necessity of degapping, it is a requirement for this method.
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Hmm... I don't understand why it's strange for you. The color coding comes from your code I put in the pine editor. Up to now, it's always been like this : the color affected to each bar is referring to the non degapped price case. So if before degap there is a SYM which is the case for bar 14 AND sent is short, the color will be orange, if sent is long, it will be yellow. The same happens for example on OB's.
I don't know why you say that, I'm used to that, and to have to degap and therefore sometimes ignore the color coding.
 
Sprout said:
If one isn't finding a n-1 EE on a Set - that is the same as not finding a n EE and the turn type advances.
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At first, when I was not finding a n EE in the MT, I was thinking I had missed the ID of the EE. Then I observed the MT and noticed there were times when it was possible to have a n EE, and in the next EE, this n EE becoming the new n-1 was not present.
I had DDd in my mind that the absence of n EE in the MT would mean the same as the absence of the EE in the n list.
Then :
- what if n EE is in the list ? -> we have C-turn
- what if the n EE is not in the list ? -> we do not have C-turn so either we have A-turn or B-turn.
- so, what if we do not find the EE in the n list ? -> it's the same as when the EE is not in the n list
- what if the EE is not in the n list ? -> we don't have C-turn
- then, if the EE is not in the n-1 list, next one can't lead to any C-turn cause no pairing will be found. Would we know here one turn in advance ? ...
 
Sprout said:
This window is different than the one that you showed before. This causes a cascade effect.

In so doing bar0 (10:55) would shift the BO,T1 to it instead of bar1.
The two requirements were met on that bar;
1) a rtl was present from the BM and there is a XO of the rtl
2) and there was a T1.

Bar2 then is a PP3 and Bar5 is a BM,rev.
Bar7 is another PP3 which makes Bar8 a PP4.
Bar9 then is a BM,rev and Bar12 is a BO,T1 and a BM,rev.

I'm not sure what is happening with your bar coloring for bar14 is a XR not an internal and Bar22 would be an FTP when both are degapped. Regardless of what opinions there are about the necessity of degapping, it is a requirement for this method.


Bar19 is not considered a notPP1 because it violates the rtl. The acceleration of volume for a PP1 must be within the same trend. So a notPP1 would also be considered if the not acceleration was in the same trend. Since there was a XO of the rtl, then not the same trend is true.

Most likely there was a BO,T1 intrabar on this bar but that's more an advanced discussion since we are logging eob. This is where the MA and DA of MADA are distinct and can have different considerations in realtime trading. The MA generates context that continually informs DA. Sometimes during trading as one places a BM and rtl pronto, the rtl gets adjusted or deleted depending on context. If the long sentiment had truly shifted then the next bar (or two) as a FS BM,rev or early bird BO,T1 would have kept one on the right side of the market as the RTL would have had a XO.


Bar25 is the progression of trend into the secondary band. The P2 rev chron is a EE in the B-band. It's important to understand the OOE of OOE's to know why this is so.

With the turn types and trend types, you are starting to understand how the progression of trends work, now change the color of the turn arrows so that they are the color of the new sentiment.
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Little issue spotted by the red flag : bar 33, 13:40.

Bar 26 : BMrev, P1 ass.
Bar 27 : XB degapped, vol DEC so T1, rtl is established
Bar 28 : XR degapped, vol DEC so T1 repeats.
Bar 29 : XB degapped, vol INC so P2.
Bar 30 : XR, vol DEC between P2 and leftmost T1 : T2P. L of bar is below last BM so RepBM long.
Bar 31 : FTP, vol DEC, wait. New true rtl established from RepBM.
Bar 32 : StB degapped, squished, vol INC so UL, I do vol measurement compared to last measured bar, which was bar 30's. It's above and below P2 : repeat T2P.
Bar 33 : Xb degapped, vol is DEC but below leftmost T1. From the volume element ranges sheet, to have a repeat T2P, we need higher volume, so it's not T2P repeat here. In the volume OOE, what is after T2P ? -> T2F. But in the same volume element ranges sheet (VERS), T2F is killed if < T1. So It's not T2F.
What else could it be ? I have had T2P in a row, so B-band is active. But neither Ba conditions nor Bc's seem fulfilled here.
So, at first sight, stuck here .
 
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