Tomorrow, parallely to 14th and maybe 15th session of MADA, I'll be working on it.
I've come to a conclusion.
First of all, I will not dwell on this too much as I've MADAs sessions to perform AND as you
@tiddlywinks said, you don't wanna get caught up in what you call minutia/perfectionnism, and in what I call precision and no letting anything to chance. The following is for those seeing it like like I do AND for myself.
Here is our case :
Firstly, I must say I still disagree with you when you say the (previously IDd as Ag and) now IDd P1revchron could be Ba being as :
- in the B-Band sheet Ba is a Band pass
- so its boundaries are P2 and T2P
- the bar in question exceeds its boundaries.
Admitting the T2P is correctly IDd, we have then T2P as the upper level and P2 (first one) as lower level. Quite weird but I think the boundaries remains the same, although inverted.
Being as the bar that keeps me busy is out of the boundaries, I don't see any possibility of a Ba. If my T2P is correct, I see a P1 revchron.
Now, this is my conclusion after deeper reflexion.
The T1, at first, is a WAIT. It's only when the Lat4 triggering a retro that one goes back and measures it to get a T1. Same for first P2.
I'm pretty sure about the next P2.
Then when comes next bar, it is exceeding first P1 so I check for any A-Band HVBO EE. For me, none of them is possible at this moment of the sequence AND being as this bar is not exceeding prior P1, it must be a P2 repeat. I've already given my comprehension to explain why I don't see it logic to ID this third P2 a PP1a.
Then 12:05 bar comes. It is again above leftmost P1. And here, this is what I see now :
- we've had a WAIT along the line, before the retro made us measure it.
AND
- we have a bar (12:05) which
- can be a Ab ? Of course no
- can be a Ac ? No, we need Not PP1.
- can be Ad ? No, we need two P1's not necessarily consecutive after P2 for that.
- can be Ae ? No, we need two T1's for that
- can be Af ? No, there is no Lat
- can be Ag ? No, P2 < P1
- can be Ah ? No, we're not on bar 78.
Ok, A-band EEs are checked, except Aa. I'll be back on this after the following.
- it can't be a B-band EE as T2P is not there yet.
- then no need to check further Bands EE's.
Then volume elements :
- P1 ? No, cause a P1 may follow a P2 when it exceeds prior P1. It's not the case so no P1revchron
- T1 ? No, it's killed after P2 onward
- P2 ? No, it should be above prior P2
- T2F ? No, we need T2P to be there.
- so T2P ?
The bar in question is between LAST P2 and T1. My comprehension currently leads me to think although it's not between FIRST P2 and T1, this bar can only be a T2P. Cause it's between P2 and T1. When yesterday I IDd T2P, it was because of the end of the road of "a thing is all it can be less what it is not". I had depleted all the possibilities from the VERS and the A-band EE's. No item fitted better than T2P.
But today, that's what I see :
- we've had a wait before Lat retro was triggered.
- this bar is exceeding first P1 so it's HVBO BUT I had Dd no A-band EE suited the case.
Then I thought about something :
- let's say we have a virtual sequence : It begins by a P1 due to any EE assigning P1 on the same bar. Then we have another P1 and a rtl is established. We have a rtl and two P1's in a row. Let's say next bar has its volume below first P1 AND its close it outside of the rtl. What is this bar ? A BO,T1. All works as on this precise bar which is a natural T1, we have a BO ON a T1. Another example : we have P1 beginning a sequence. Then a T1 and a rtl can be drawn. We have all the pre-reqs for a BO,T1. Then next bar exceeds in volume prior one AND its close BO the rtl. This bar would be a P2 in the volume elements AND it would prevent from any BO,T1 further. BUT we consider the BO,T1 to be true in this case although the bar in question if it was established BEFORE, would have prevented from any BO,T1 possibility.
Again, it's on the same bar that we have a condition preventing something to happen AND this thing happening. It's possible because of simultaneity.
Thus :
- on my T2P bar, because
- we've had a wait along the line
- we have a four bar context because 12:05 is T2P rather than anything from what I DDd
I see now 12:05 as : Aa HVBO.
NB : if this bar had been under leftmost P1 (remember in the present case it's above so it's HVBO), I would have seen a T2P "alone" so not leading FS AND I'd still see next bar as P1revchron.
14th session coming soon