Make the Unvaccinated pay their own Covid medical bills - The rage grows

[gwb-trading]

Ah, that's why its so easy to get a blank COVID vaccine card! If only there were a way insurance companies could check

Actually insurance companies can check your vaccine status easily -- you really should take a look at how they confirm lot numbers with dates and location for vaccinations as a starting point. But it goes well beyond that..

You are aware that Insurance companies have access to all of your medical information, eh? Every time you go the doctor, get a vaccine, get prescription drugs, etc. Hard to pull one over on them.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Actually insurance companies can check your vaccine status easily -- you really should take a look at how they confirm lot numbers with dates and location for vaccinations as a starting point. But it goes well beyond that..

You are aware that Insurance companies have access to all of your medical information, eh? Every time you go the doctor, get a vaccine, get prescription drugs, etc. Hard to pull one over on them.

No, they can't. First, lot numbers are exceptionally easy to get right. They can be copied from an individual with it already, or you can go to one of the sites and use old codes to figure out the way new codes are done. I actually did it quite easily when a friend told me it could be done (and I didn't believe it).

As for having access to all of your medical information, how do you reckon they have the info on all the pop up tents that did vaccines when they first came out? There were places around here in Tampa where a literal tent was erected and migrant workers came and got their shots and then left - no one wrote shit on anything, much less put it in a system.

I had a call with a well known vaccine enforcement company - Qualtrics (they sell software that checks and verifies) and they admitted all they can do is upload and make sure the document looks real. There's no central database to verify. I had this call on the off-chance we would implement a vaccine requirement (we did not, since OSHA mandates failed). Additionally, I know of several folks personally who were required to upload their "vaccines cards" and had fake ones. They did so and haven't heard "boo" about it. That was months ago.

So once again, you're full of shit.

 

[gwb-trading]

No, they can't. First, lot numbers are exceptionally easy to get right. They can be copied from an individual with it already, or you can go to one of the sites and use old codes to figure out the way new codes are done. I actually did it quite easily when a friend told me it could be done (and I didn't believe it).

As for having access to all of your medical information, how do you reckon they have the info on all the pop up tents that did vaccines when they first came out? There were places around here in Tampa where a literal tent was erected and migrant workers came and got their shots and then left - no one wrote shit on anything, much less put it in a system.

I had a call with a well known vaccine enforcement company (they sell software that checks and verifies) and they admitted all they can do is upload and make sure the document looks real. There's no central database to verify. I had this call on the off-chance we would implement a vaccine requirement (we did not, since OSHA mandates failed).

So once again, you're full of shit.

First let's be very clear -- every dose of a vaccine was documented and placed in a system. Also a vaccine card was provided/updated for every individual receiving a dose with pertinent information. Every doses had to be accounted for and tracked. If you believe this information was not tracked by the government then you really should have a conversation with the doctors who were charged and fired for providing doses to ineligible people early in the pandemic including the doctor in Texas.

You do realize that there are 33 databases of vaccine informationin the U.S. (usually by state) which will be available to insurance companies as well. If you want to believe that your Insurance company will not be able to see you are unvaccinated --- enjoy your fantasy.

 

[Tsing Tao]

First let's be very clear -- every dose of a vaccine was documented and placed in a system. Also a vaccine card was provided/updated for every individual receiving a dose with pertinent information. Every doses had to be accounted for and tracked. If you believe this information was not tracked by the government then you really should have a conversation with the doctors who were charged and fired for providing doses to ineligible people early in the pandemic including the doctor in Texas.

Without a name, putting the dose into a "system" doesn't do much for tracking, does it. And that's the point here.

You do realize that there are 33 databases of vaccine informationin the U.S. (usually by state) which will be available to insurance companies as well. If you want to believe that your Insurance company will not be able to see you are unvaccinated --- enjoy your fantasy.

Yes, there are. But COVID vaccines weren't put into this system at first, and only much later because of the botched roll out. You're the one living in a fantasy. I've expressly spoken to companies and pharmacists who have told me this precisely. I've had to do it to see if our company could track it correctly or whether we just had to take people's word for it.

You're wrong. Again.

 

[FortuneTeller]

Those who have been jabbed are like those who are incubators.

 

[gwb-trading]

Without a name, putting the dose into a "system" doesn't do much for tracking, does it. And that's the point here.



Yes, there are. But COVID vaccines weren't put into this system at first, and only much later because of the botched roll out. You're the one living in a fantasy. I've expressly spoken to companies and pharmacists who have told me this precisely. I've had to do it to see if our company could track it correctly or whether we just had to take people's word for it.

You're wrong. Again.

Covid vaccine doses were tracked from Day 1 and all the information entered in databases.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Covid vaccine doses were tracked from Day 1 and all the information entered in databases.

No, they aren't. And it is incredibly easy to make - and use - a vaccine card.

 

[FortuneTeller]

Long term side effects of the vaccinations are being buried and not talked about at all.

 

[gwb-trading]

No, they aren't. And it is incredibly easy to make - and use - a vaccine card.

Any idiot can create a vaccination card. They will not be able to evade being caught as unvaccinated via government databases when reviewed by government agencies and/or insurance companies --- when it comes to paying a surcharge on your medical insurance for not being vaccinated.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Any idiot can create a vaccination card. They will not be able to evade being caught as unvaccinated via government databases when reviewed by government agencies and/or insurance companies --- when it comes to paying a surcharge on your medical insurance for not being vaccinated.

Again, this is simply not true. I know of some folks right now who've gotten by. I know them personally and they aren't vaccinated, yet various "checks" believe they are. So I know you to be full of shit. Again.

When vaccines were initially released, I remember looking at all these pop up tent clinics giving vaccines here in Florida and going, is anyone logging this stuff? And no one was.

Now, they're most likely doing it now (although I know a pharmacist who still says they aren't, I can't believe that but who knows). But they weren't in the beginning.

And then there is the question of what is truly vaccinated? Is it two doses and a booster? Is it two boosters? Does it change all the time?

You're a clown if you think this has any change of sticking long term. Well, you're a clown anyway.