Majority of UK covid hospitalizations are fully vaxxed

WeToddDid2 said:
Did you watch the original news conference? Why did he go into details and provide a long winded explanation on why it is the fully vaxxed make up the 60%?
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You'd have to ask the guy who made that mistake. It's a pretty serious mistake however as it could cost someone their life if they believed him and therefore thought vaccination was only 40% effective at keeping you from getting seriously ill with Covid and hence decided not to get vaccinated.
 
piezoe said:
If you'll read the article you linked to you will see very clearly written, in a way that does not invite misinterpretation, that your expert was quoted as saying, after he admitted making a mistake by reporting incorrect statistics, "Vaccination is very, very effective, but not 100%, and as a higher proportion of the population is double-vaccinated, it's inevitable that those 10% of that very large number remain at risk, and therefore will be amongst the people who both catch the infection and end up in hospital."

I read that as saying that "that 10%, not 40%, of those who are double vaccinated may still get sick enough to end up in a hospital! What do you read it as? Of course that 10% number was his estimate. The U.S. data shows that very close to 0% of those double vaccinated end up dying from Covid!!!! That's pretty damn impressive as far as I'm concerned.

Would you agree, we all have an obligation not to allow ourselves to become victims of media misinformation, and to refrain from spreading such?
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LOL. 0% in the US. Holy fuck - some people are so gullible. There is no data. Just garbage news stories. What is the testing protocol for those vaxxed and those not?
The data is clear - CFR for vaxxed is almost 800% than for unvaxxed. In Israel it’s 600% higher. But yeah, America is different.

Listen to CDC Director lying. Right to your face.
 
LacesOut said:
LOL. 0% in the US. Holy fuck - some people are so gullible. There is no data. Just garbage news stories. What is the testing protocol for those vaxxed and those not?
The data is clear - CFR for vaxxed is almost 800% than for unvaxxed. In Israel it’s 600% higher. But yeah, America is different.

Listen to CDC Director lying. Right to your face.
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What complete nonsense. Do ever get tired of pushing absolute bullshiat.
 
gwb-trading said:
What complete nonsense. Do ever get tired of pushing absolute bullshiat.
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Says the guy who tells us 12 people have died from vaccines but never offers any actual data. while VAERS says 11,000, Eudra says 19,000…and both are underreported.
 
LacesOut said:
Sorry I misspoke and conflated the two studies. the Israeli one shows 672% increase in cases from the vaccinated vs those with natural immunity. The 800% increase in CFR is from the UK.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762
https://assets.publishing.service.g...ants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_18.pdf
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Seeing that the large majority of Israeli adults are vaccinated -- including ones that are previously infected --- and only vaccinated people in Israel are effectively allowed out of their homes. There is no surprise that vaccinated adults number 6X more than unvaccinated (with previous COVID) in Israel. The sheer numbers of the vaccinated would lead to this type of skew. As well as the reality that the unvaccinated are effectively locked up in their homes and are now out in bars, restaurants, entertainment venues, etc.

There is no data in the U.K. report showing a 800% increase in CFR -- please cite the page in the report that states this. Pages 10 to 12 which provide the Case Fatality Rate information clearly don't show this.
 
gwb-trading said:
Seeing that the large majority of Israeli adults are vaccinated -- including ones that are previously infected --- and only vaccinated people in Israel are effectively allowed out of their homes. There is no surprise that vaccinated adults number 6X more than unvaccinated (with previous COVID) in Israel. The sheer numbers of the vaccinated would lead to this type of skew. As well as the reality that the unvaccinated are effectively locked up in their homes and are now out in bars, restaurants, entertainment venues, etc.

There is no data in the U.K. report showing a 800% increase in CFR -- please cite the page in the report that states this. Pages 10 to 12 which provide the Case Fatality Rate information clearly don't show this.
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Data:
92 unvaxxed dead out of 71932 cases
118 vax dead out of 10834 cases
Calculate away.
 
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LacesOut said:
Data:
92 unvaxxed dead out of 7193 cases
118 vax dead out of 10834 cases
Calculate away.
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Let's take a look at your data...

And no -- the claimed data above does not show a 800% CFR increase among the vaccinated.

The CFR of the unvaccinated group above is 1.28%
The CFR of the vaccinated group above is 1.09%

The CFR for the unvaccinated group is higher than the vaccinated group.

Do you even understand the basics of math?
 
gwb-trading said:
Let's take a look at your data...

And no -- the claimed data above does not show a 800% CFR increase among the vaccinated.

The CFR of the unvaccinated group above is 1.28%
The CFR of the vaccinated group above is 1.09%

The CFR for the unvaccinated group is higher than the vaccinated group.

Do you even understand the basics of math?
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Sorry - I’m retarded. I fixed my post above. The unvaxxed Delta case number is 71932. Not 7193. That shows the correct 800% increase in CFR.
 
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