Magic and the "subconscious"

Quote from nononsense:

You clearly hold a minority opinion. An overwhelming majority of people believe in God and in good and evil.
There you got your devil.
It used to be like that in 0006, 1006.
It will still be so in 3006, God willing, independent of what vehn 'believes' to be 'correct thinking' for 2006.

you are probably right. sad isnt it? i guess it just proves that no matter how far we advance superstition will always be with us.
 
Quote from nononsense:

You clearly hold a minority opinion. An overwhelming majority of people believe in God and in good and evil.
There you got your devil.
It used to be like that in 0006, 1006.
It will still be so in 3006, God willing, independent of what vehn 'believes' to be 'correct thinking' for 2006.



devil

d--- evil

evil--- live


surfer:D
 
Quote from vhehn:

how is it that we got to 2006 and people still believe in devils?

Actually I had just watched a Star Wars movie (my 7-year old son
is obsessed with Star Wars) the night before so I thought it was
time to repeat Darth Vader's famous line.

But I do feel kind of weird after eating Deviled eggs... :p
 
Quote from cooldude:


If you can use 15% instead of less than 10% of your own brain, you are God or Devil.
If you can use 20% you become Zeus.
If you can use 30%,..., well, I don't know, I am using only 5%, but I know that bogeyman is a fake.
:D

I believe that we only use 10% of our hearts.
 
Quote from andrasnm:

Buddhist/Tibetan beliefs say that tantric practices (chanting while meditating) can result in very powerful Magick.
The saying is "right handed" tantric practice is while still dangerous can and will give the practitioner powers of magick but the "left hand" tantric practice is using the "dark forces" and downright dangerous to the person who will invoke them.
http://sangha.net/other-FAQ.htm#attitude to Tantra



The guy in that link is a lunatic. He needs to get back on his Bipolar medication.


A excerpt:

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What is Shambhala? Where is it located?
Shambhala is a place in the Himalayas where Elder Brothers of Humanity live and guide our evolution. It is a valley at about 12,000 feet altitude with a main multi-storey tower attached to the rock and a complex network of caves and underground facilities. Read Supermundane (The Inner Life of Brotherhood) for more details. In Tibetan Buddhism, Panchen Lama of Tashiding Monastery is supposed to be an Ambassador of Shambhala who issues passports to enter it. According to Tibetans, Buddha visited Shambhala and gave the Kalachakra Teaching to the King of Shambhala at that time. Christ received his final initiations in Shambhala during his travels in India and Tibet. Maitreya is the current King of Shambhala. Read "On the Eastern Crossroads" for more details.

No one can visit Shambhala unless one has been Called.


or


What is the relationship between MM and Jesus of Nazareth?

MM was His Teacher and when Jesus could not complete His mission, MM/Maitreya entered Jesus's body and helped bring it to completion.

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Someone needs to tell the psychotic loon that .... No "Shambala" does not exist and no "MM/Maitreya" never entered Jesus' body. Now get back to taking your meds and stop using too much meth/crack.
 
regarding the yogi link--i found this interesting:

<i>What is your attitude to Christianity?
We embrace Christianity as the Living Teaching of Jesus Christ. We reject Christianity as a set of dead dogmas which stifle natural evolution of humanity on the path of Love, Beauty and Knowledge. Each Christian Church can be tried using the litmus test of similarity with the original Teaching of Christ, His own words and deeds. Those confessions which diverged the most deserve the least of our sympathy. Let's distinguish the Teaching of Christ from the Church and remember what Christ himself thought about the institute of organized religion, churches etc</i>



surf
 
Quote from paperboy:

I can´t listen to it but he talks about black magick? Using demons? Magick is just focused thinking i guess. It´s much more dangerous to not be able to concentrate

Sorry paperboy, I just saw your post. With the exception of recent days I do not visit ET that often, but I’m surprised you made the post less than a month ago – it feels like 3 months when I posted to this thread, and I’m amazed the thread even lasted longer than a few days. Malachi Martin to answer your question was a Jesuit priest and well known exorcist. You can download the interview from most peer to peer networks; that is, if you are interested or you have not already done so. He also had a couple of interesting talks with Major Ed Dames who is a remote viewer that worked for the military. Personally, I believe that all religions are the greatest obstacle to the truth, but Malachi Martin had an unadulterated honesty about him that one rarely sees today. I came across that interview some time after he passed away so regretfully I will never have an opportunity to ask him the questions that I would have liked.

As for the rest of you who are so certain about the lack of a devil or another world to our own (spiritually speaking) you may consider getting hold of that 5 hour interview he did with Art Bell in 1996 as well, or read his book http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/00...104-1639534-9707128?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

I am sure he will water down your beliefs a little at least.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

regarding the yogi link--i found this interesting:

<i>What is your attitude to Christianity?
We embrace Christianity as the Living Teaching of Jesus Christ. We reject Christianity as a set of dead dogmas which stifle natural evolution of humanity on the path of Love, Beauty and Knowledge. Each Christian Church can be tried using the litmus test of similarity with the original Teaching of Christ, His own words and deeds. Those confessions which diverged the most deserve the least of our sympathy. Let's distinguish the Teaching of Christ from the Church and remember what Christ himself thought about the institute of organized religion, churches etc</i>



surf


Amen......or something.
There is a lot (ok, some internet sites of unknown validity) to suggest jc used a wide variety of traditional herbal healing, and a degree of shamanic (pagan) ritual to in fact achieve his miracles, using in all likelihood "subconscious " or mental methods in fact not just common, but routine among buddhist monks, and a wide variety of ayuverdic and traditional healers across the known world at the time.

Just a thought.

:)
 
Quote from BVM88:



As for changing one’s mind state, my experience through the practice of Yoga & Chi Kung has been that each mind state has it’s own breath rhythm and one can easily change their state of mind just by changing (and focusing on) their breathing.

Maybe that's why I feel better after jogging.

JohnnyK
 
Quote from nononsense:
Quote from cooldude:
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The so called source of supranatural powers is within ourselves.
...
Hoho,
Is that so?
How do you know that?
In what you would call "powers within ourselves", how do you separate "natural" powers from "supranatural" powers?
Don't ask me.
I am using less than 5% of those grey stuff.
I don't even know why they call it grey!
:confused:
 
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