MAGAtards won't wear masks

[vanzandt]

While you two are busy trying to find research proving the wind can't blow covid;

I see I need to address this too:





If you play the lotto etc., you have a slim chance of winning. Yet people win regularly.

And if you do win, it could be life-changing.

Same with covid.

Play stupid games--long odds or not--you can win stupid prizes.

Hope this helps:

Infectious disease: Blowing in the wind
https://www.nature.com/news/infectious-disease-blowing-in-the-wind-1.10374

"...

Epidemiologists now have a new place to look: on winds blowing from central Asia. A team of medical and climate scientists, including Burns, argue in last November's issue of Scientific Reports1 that the agent of Kawasaki disease is not only reaching Japan from the Asian mainland by this route, but it seems to be crossing the Pacific Ocean to infect children in Hawaii and the North American mainland.

If windborne spread turns out to be true, the Kawasaki disease agent will be the first viable human disease pathogen proved to cross thousands of kilometres of ocean by natural means (as opposed to carriage on planes or ships). And it may not be the last: researchers are beginning to ask whether the wind might also be a factor in the spread of influenza.

..."

Anymore questions?

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Omg.... There's so many flaws in this response.... its not even worth the effort.
Dude.... you're not going to catch Covid on the wind ok? You don't need to drive around wearing a mask. In a car or on a lawnmower.

Your point about maybe some people don't want to take it on or off.... ok.... I'll give you that one... but if you honestly think you'll catch this sh*t walking down a sidewalk alone from a person who sneezes 3 miles away.... bro I can't even argue with you.
Like I said.... COMMON F'ING SENSE.

Lord almighty... have we become this stupid?!
My gawd..........

 

[Bugenhagen]

The eternal optimist

Hospice work teaches you about optimism in regards to sun.

Classical Rome life expectancy was 20 to 30, say 25, not that different to Neolithic time.

Skin as an organ is past design age by 40, very old after 50.

Don't push your luck too much. Your covid cure is bad medicine. Take good suppliments and very moderate sun.

 

[Bugenhagen]

Wallet being an old churchy Oklahoma type is more..

 

[userque]

Omg.... There's so many flaws in this response.... its not even worth the effort.
Dude.... you're not going to catch Covid on the wind ok? You don't need to drive around wearing a mask. In a car or on a lawnmower.

Your point about maybe some people don't want to take it on or off.... ok.... I'll give you that one... but if you honestly think you'll catch this sh*t walking down a sidewalk alone from a person who sneezes 3 miles away.... bro I can't even argue with you.
Like I said.... COMMON F'ING SENSE.

Lord almighty... have we become this stupid?!
My gawd..........

Where did I say you can catch it from 3 miles away?

You've posted nothing that says it can't be caught from the air (much further than 6 feet).

I've shown where viruses do, in fact, travel in the wind.
I've given examples of other, well-known particles that travel through the air long distances, and affect people.

You said masks only prevent "spread." That they stop the virus from passing to the air by one who is infected.
But they don't prevent "infection." That they don't stop the virus from being inhaled through the mask.

I asked you how can it stop the virus in that scenario; but can't stop that same virus from being inhaled through the mask of someone standing close by, if an infected person without a mask sneezed.

You continue to post bullshit, yet still can't address that question.

Dumbed down:

You claimed that,

Covid can't leave through the mask of an infected person (as you said, "preventing spread"), but
Covid can enter through the mask of person trying to prevent infection (as you said, "can't prevent infection".

I've refuted all of your assertions, including your silly bicycle and life vest example.
You've supported none of your assertions.

You spoke of wings on pine cone pollen. Does all pollen have wings? Let me help you:

Like I said, pollen, even being heavier than a virus, travels further than 6 feet in the wind.

You never addressed dust being blown far distances.

1. Show us evidence that covid can't be blown by the wind; while heavier particles can.
2. Explain to us how covid can only travel through a mask in one direction, and not the other.

I hope that I've made the requests even clearer this time. I've said them in multiple ways. Take your time.

If you give up, don't respond; or be a man and say, in effect, if not in these exact words: "You know what userque ... you're right!"

If you respond with more of that MAGAtard non-answer bullshit, I'll dumb the questions down even further for you.

 

[vanzandt]

Where did I say you can catch it from 3 miles away?

You've posted nothing that says it can't be caught from the air (much further than 6 feet).

I've shown where viruses do, in fact, travel in the wind.
I've given examples of other, well-known particles that travel through the air long distances, and affect people.

You said masks only prevent "spread." That they stop the virus from passing to the air by one who is infected.
But they don't prevent "infection." That they don't stop the virus from being inhaled through the mask.

I asked you how can it stop the virus in that scenario; but can't stop that same virus from being inhaled through the mask of someone standing close by, if an infected person without a mask sneezed.

You continue to post bullshit, yet still can't address that question.

Dumbed down:

You claimed that,

Covid can't leave through the mask of an infected person (as you said, "preventing spread"), but
Covid can enter through the mask of person trying to prevent infection (as you said, "can't prevent infection".

I've refuted all of your assertions, including your silly bicycle and life vest example.
You've supported none of your assertions.

You spoke of wings on pine cone pollen. Does all pollen have wings? Let me help you:
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Like I said, pollen, even being heavier than a virus, travels further than 6 feet in the wind.

You never addressed dust being blown far distances.

1. Show us evidence that covid can't be blown by the wind; while heavier particles can.
2. Explain to us how covid can only travel through a mask in one direction, and not the other.

I hope that I've made the requests even clearer this time. I've said them in multiple ways. Take your time.

If you give up, don't respond; or be a man and say, in effect, if not in these exact words: "You know what userque ... you're right!"

If you respond with more of that MAGAtard non-answer bullshit, I'll dumb the questions down even further for you.

I would think 3 miles as opposed to crossing the Pacific ocean is giving it the benefit of the doubt.
And you're not gonna catch it from 3 miles. Or 2. Or 1.

Just like pissing in the ocean won't affect its level of salinity.
You understand the sh*t gets dispersed... and you need 10's of millions of the individual virus to even think about testing positive.

Its common sense.
Case closed.

 

[vanzandt]

Virus travels via wind?
chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2020-02-14 09:09

[Photo/VCG]
Rumor: The novel coronavirus could spread to neighboring areas via the wind.

Fact:

The major routes of transmission are still through droplets and direct contact, as per the latest explanation released on the WeChat account of China's National Health Commission on Feb 9. Epidemiological surveys showed most cases could be traced back to close contact with confirmed patients.

The National Health Commission said, for now, the distance for droplet transmission is not rather long, usually shorter than two meters. Droplets with a diameter larger than five micrometers will settle quickly by coughing or during talking, in case of close distance, on mucous membrane of the exposed, resulting in infection. But droplets don't float long in air, and won't be blown far enough to serve as virus carriers.

 

[vanzandt]

Damn. 18 feet.
Whoa.



6 Feet May Not Be Enough: Wind May Carry Coronavirus Farther
Researchers say droplets containing the new coronavirus can travel as far as 18 feet, even in mild wind.

• New research indicates that droplets containing the new coronavirus can travel as far as 18 feet after a person sneezes, coughs, and even speaks.

• Experts note, however, it still isn’t certain how long the new coronavirus can survive while airborne.
• They note the research does illustrate why it’s important to wear masks and maintain physical distancing while in public.

All data and statistics are based on publicly available data at the time of publication. Some information may be out of date. Visit our coronavirus hub and follow our live updates page for the most recent information on the COVID-19 outbreak.

While there’s still much to be understood about COVID-19, a recent batch of research is giving infectious disease experts some new information about the distance the new coronavirus can travel and how long it can linger in the air.

Researchers know the virus that causes COVID-19 is spread through respiratory droplets, namely from droplets that spread as we sneeze, cough, and even talk.

As people all over the world are practicing physical distancing, some recent studies are offering new evidence in the global health community’s response to a pandemic.

In a study published today in the journal Physics of Fluids, researchers Talib Dbouk and Dimitris Drikakis with the Defense and Security Research Institute at the University of Nicosia in Greece argue that with even a slight breeze — as little as 2.5 mph — it only takes 5 seconds for those tiny droplets to travel 18 feet.

The researchers used a “computational fluid dynamics simulation,” or software to simulate how fluid travels, to reconstruct how saliva droplets could travel from a coughing person.

The scientists took into consideration factors such as humidity, the force in which droplets are dispersed, evaporation, and how the saliva molecules interact with the air.

They reached their calculation of 18 feet in 5 seconds after running partial differential equations on 1,008 saliva droplets, solving about 3.7 million equations in total.

 

[userque]

I would think 3 miles as opposed to crossing the Pacific ocean is giving it the benefit of the doubt.
And you're not gonna catch it from 3 miles. Or 2. Or 1.

Just like pissing in the ocean won't affect its level of salinity.
You understand the sh*t gets dispersed... and you need 10's of millions of the individual virus to even think about testing positive.

Its common sense.
Case closed.

You still provide no answers to the specific questions about your assertions.

I never argued a specific distance. You made one up yourself, then argued against yourself as though it was my allegation. LOL.

You, in that allegation, only used the sneeze from one person. Obviously, the virus from just one person didn't cross the ocean in that source I cited. Again, another attempt at obfuscation. There are viruses in the air from more than just one person.

Early on, there were reports of people who contracted the virus will never leaving their homes after testing negative. It's in the air, further than six feet, and just like air, can enter a home.

The cited source shows that people can catch viruses after they've traveled miles in the air. Yet, you, doctor (you must be a doctor, since you cite no references but yourself), still insist on saying we can't catch it from 1 mile away. You obviously are still obfuscating the argument by only considering the exhalation of one person from 1 mile away. Again, arguing against your own allegations.

Continuing with your autoarguments: would it affect anything if everyone pissed in the ocean? How about half the population?

I don't know where you pulled 10's of millions out of (how fitting, you sound like dotard's "Billionnns and billionnns" mantra), but:

For covid, they aren't sure yet.

You don't get to close the case by saying "case closed." Please re-read my prior post to see how to close it.

 

[userque]

How far can a virus travel if it can float in the wind for hours?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health...covid-19-transmission-than-previously-thought [Emphasis added]

 

[vanzandt]

You still provide no answers to the specific questions about your assertions.

Actually, I think I did.
Here's what the UN has to say:

Case closed.