Macho cajones required to trade ER2?
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Over the past month I have migrated more and more of my volume to the ER2.
In my opinion it's not as bad as it's portrayed to be. Yes, there are price runs that are faster than any other mini, but structurally it's all the same game.
The need to actually trade a smaller contract size relative to the ES/YM to gain the same P/L result based on average range significantly adds to my bottom line as far as commission is concerned.
Since the ES/NQ require more volume to reap the same profit average per swing this is of real benefit!
Those sneaky commissions really add up...
Just my 2 cents
In my opinion it's not as bad as it's portrayed to be. Yes, there are price runs that are faster than any other mini, but structurally it's all the same game.
The need to actually trade a smaller contract size relative to the ES/YM to gain the same P/L result based on average range significantly adds to my bottom line as far as commission is concerned.
Since the ES/NQ require more volume to reap the same profit average per swing this is of real benefit!
Those sneaky commissions really add up...
Just my 2 cents
If you were trading 2 contracts at a time with the NQ or YM, it's pretty much like the ER at one contract. Especially now with all the volatility. When volatility was low, the YM's daily range was much worse.
YM may be easier since you can actually monitor the top 5-10 stocks that make up the index.
YM may be easier since you can actually monitor the top 5-10 stocks that make up the index.
ER is generally easier to trade than ES, all things equal. ER tends to make lower lows = higher highs and doesn't pull back as deeply when moving. These days the ES spikes higher highs - lower lows, drops -5pts bounces +6pts and drops -10pts straight from there.
ER has much less program gaming than the ES... directional swings are straighter. You may get stopped out a couple times in ER, but the swings captured go +$500 ~ +$1,000 per contract to make the difference.
ER has very limited trade size on fills. Unless you get real creative, filling more than 5-lots on limit orders won't happen consistently. Partial fills becomes a nightmare.
NQ has about three times the liquidity of ER. Also much trendier than ES, but ER outstrips both for distance covered on swings.
ES has professional trader size... and that is the sole benefit to it.
ER has much less program gaming than the ES... directional swings are straighter. You may get stopped out a couple times in ER, but the swings captured go +$500 ~ +$1,000 per contract to make the difference.
ER has very limited trade size on fills. Unless you get real creative, filling more than 5-lots on limit orders won't happen consistently. Partial fills becomes a nightmare.
NQ has about three times the liquidity of ER. Also much trendier than ES, but ER outstrips both for distance covered on swings.
ES has professional trader size... and that is the sole benefit to it.
lwlee makes a good point here. Therefore, I do not trade the same number of ER lots as ES lots. Insteadd of 4 contracts, I may trade only 3 ER. I am comfortable with this.