Lupus patients are not getting sick from CCP virus

gwb-trading said:
This is the typical situation where someone has no evidence to support their assertions and they just cast aspersions on creditable, factual sources..... rather then presenting real information.
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Yep, watch him not supply his source of the many (unless youtube comments) and try and substitute something else instead.

Also, linear time, the passing of dates means little to a quote miner who does not care about the order of progression in knowledge.
 
Oh the oz short clip, not on the fix news original version with the complete interview where he shows signs of discomfort on some matters.

I'll stop helping, real work to do.
 
At this time, we would ask that GWB trading and her numerous monikers would refrain from posting in this thread. It's clearly obvious that the death rate among Lupus patients is way below the death rate of others. Please pay attention. Hydroxychloroquine works---period.
 
Dr. Love said:
Because probably they are suffering from TDS?

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Dr. Oz is a quack. Anyone who relies on him or anyone he brings onto his show for medical guidance is not thinking rationally.

Dr. Oz (Mehmet Cengiz Öz)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
"He is a proponent of alternative medicine, and has been criticized by physicians, government officials, and publications, including Popular Science and The New Yorker, for endorsing unproven products and non-scientific advice. The British Medical Journal published a study that found more than half of the recommendations on medical talk series like The Dr. Oz Show had either no evidence or contradicted medical research"

'A fake and a charlatan': Doctors call for Dr. Oz to be dismissed from Columbia surgery faculty over alleged quack science
https://www.nydailynews.com/life-st...oz-removed-columbia-faculty-article-1.2187815

Trump Eyes Accused ‘Quack’ Dr. Oz for Coronavirus Advice
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...for-coronavirus-and-hydroxychloroquine-advice

5 'quack treatments' Dr. Oz has recommended that are totally bogus
https://www.businessinsider.com/dr-oz-treatments-that-other-doctors-say-are-bogus-2015-4
 
gwb-trading said:
Dr. Oz is a quack. Anyone who relies on him or anyone he brings onto his show for medical guidance is not thinking rationally.

Dr. Oz (Mehmet Cengiz Öz)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
"He is a proponent of alternative medicine, and has been criticized by physicians, government officials, and publications, including Popular Science and The New Yorker, for endorsing unproven products and non-scientific advice. The British Medical Journal published a study that found more than half of the recommendations on medical talk series like The Dr. Oz Show had either no evidence or contradicted medical research"

'A fake and a charlatan': Doctors call for Dr. Oz to be dismissed from Columbia surgery faculty over alleged quack science
https://www.nydailynews.com/life-st...oz-removed-columbia-faculty-article-1.2187815

Trump Eyes Accused ‘Quack’ Dr. Oz for Coronavirus Advice
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...for-coronavirus-and-hydroxychloroquine-advice

5 'quack treatments' Dr. Oz has recommended that are totally bogus
https://www.businessinsider.com/dr-oz-treatments-that-other-doctors-say-are-bogus-2015-4
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Business Insider, Daily Beast? For the love of God please take your head out of the stinker....
 
Dr. Love said:
Had to send reinforcements, heh :p
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Actually he possibly has a family member or someone affected by lupus, who knows? This is the first time we have argued from the same side.

I yoinked two packets of Sanofi Hydroxychloroquine before Trump did the medicine show scammer thing and after he did and it was all bought there was a local girl with arthritis (FB) saying she could not get any (legit had medical proof) so I and others offered her one of ours for free.

GWB is a basically decent man, some BS as happens to all when too many posts take over but when the shit gets serious men with families don't so much.

Gen X, stuck in the middle of the fucking idiots.
 
Bugenhagen said:
Actually he possibly has a family member or someone affected by lupus, who knows? This is the first time we have argued from the same side.

I yoinked two packets of Sanofi Hydroxychloroquine before Trump did the medicine show scammer thing and after he did and it was all bought there was a local girl with arthritis (FB) saying she could not get any (legit had medical proof) so I and others offered her one of ours for free.

GWB is a basically decent man, some BS as happens to all when too many posts take over but when the shit gets serious men with families don't so much.

Gen X, stuck in the middle of the fucking idiots.
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For fucking free? You mean a medicine that you were supposed to have been receiving every month according to your 'prescription'?

How much did this Plaquenil, that you so generously have away, cost you?
 
Buy1Sell2 said:
Hydroxychloroquine works---period.
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There have only been two studies showing that "Hydroxychloroquine works"; one from France and one from Wuhan. Both studies used a small number of patients and did not follow a "double-blind" method. The much hyped Raoult study from France has been withdrawn; they only counted the successful cases while ignoring all the patients in their study on hydroxychloroquine who died (over 10%).

I will ignore the "study" in the U.S. put out by a political organization which merely repeated and hyped the Raoult study while performing no medical studies on their own.

CDC quietly deletes hydroxychloroquine guidance as study hyped by Trump comes into question
The publisher of a French study cited by Trump put out a statement announcing it did not meet "expected standards"
https://www.salon.com/2020/04/08/cd...study-hyped-by-trump-is-called-into-question/

It should be noted that not a single follow-up study has been able to reproduce the results from the Raoult study touted by the press and politicians. Here is one example -
No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien...K8KidhgPzw20ZkpgiE59GJa4S6-dvdguJORx6phbNyp3k

The hype of hydroxychloroquine is driven in a political arena with minimal medical support of the wild claims of a cure. This following article outlines the time line of the political arena circus hyping hydroxychloroquine as a treatment and the medical studies showing it is not effective.
Hydroxychloroquine: how an unproven drug became Trump’s coronavirus 'miracle cure'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/hydroxychloroquine-trump-coronavirus-drug

I believe that Doctors should continue to utilize the medicine in this emergency situation but it should not be promoted as proven in any way. The evidence uncovered recently actually show it is not effective and possibly deadly to patients with underlying heart issues or who take medication such as metformin.

I expect that a month from now we will have more evidence regarding the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of COVID-19 from several U.S. hot-spots including New York which will provide the largest information set. Treatment guidance should be driven by proper medical and clinical study results.

At minimum decisions to use hydroxychloroquine should be decided by medical professionals and not driven by politicians on TV.
 
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