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Lunch Money vs Fast Money which is
- Thread starter timcar
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Weiss thinks this market is headed lower.
But if the market does trade up, Stephen Weiss, managing partner at Short Hills Capital, says take profits. He thinks the big picture issues generating headwinds remain potent.
âEurope is still a mess and China is still slowing,â he says. âI donât think the market is ok past the next few days. Not at all.â
He says Europe is a mess and I don't beleive in the China data.
Trader Stephen Weiss, managing partner at Short Hills Capital , shares the skepticism. Heâs very focused on Europe and a pattern thatâs emerged. âEurope tends to make an announcement â not follow through and then the plan falters. How much more of that can the market withstand?â
But if the market does trade up, Stephen Weiss, managing partner at Short Hills Capital, says take profits. He thinks the big picture issues generating headwinds remain potent.
âEurope is still a mess and China is still slowing,â he says. âI donât think the market is ok past the next few days. Not at all.â
He says Europe is a mess and I don't beleive in the China data.
Trader Stephen Weiss, managing partner at Short Hills Capital , shares the skepticism. Heâs very focused on Europe and a pattern thatâs emerged. âEurope tends to make an announcement â not follow through and then the plan falters. How much more of that can the market withstand?â
Wesis say FCliff will not happen any time soon Govât keep pushing in further into the future. Now the market is being pushed higher by QE3 and Josh brown says the FED wants you to get rich. Fundaments not important the fed and ECU more important.
Sept 2011 to sept 2012 The DOW is up 11 of last 12 months not happen in about 50 years.
Earnings
When the index was at its apex2007 , trailing twelve month earnings were $89.35 per share, producing a P/E ratio of 17.5. With trailing earnings today 2012 at $98.30 per share, the market is trading at an earnings multiple of 14.8. If the S&P 500 were trading at the same earnings multiple as at its 2007 peak, the index would be at 1722, roughly 18% higher than the current level despite trailing earnings only 0.5% from their all-time nominal peak. Some might be quick to point out that too high of a multiple was placed on the market at its peak, especially given that in hindsight we know that the market was overvalued given the looming risks. At a 17.5 P/E multiple, the market multiple at its peak was just a turn higher than the long-run average multiple of 16.5x. Of course, investors do not buy stocks for trailing earnings, markets are inherently forward looking. Is today's earnings multiple discount at 11% to the historical average fair?
Questions linger. Can accommodative monetary policy in the United States offset uncertainty over fiscal policy given our consistent trillion dollar deficits, growing entitlement obligations, and lack of political will to address these issues? Will foreigners who own half of our public Treasury debt continue to be willing to finance our largesse? Can economic and fiscal integration occur in the Eurozone with such disparate national economies and cultures?
Sept 2011 to sept 2012 The DOW is up 11 of last 12 months not happen in about 50 years.
Earnings
When the index was at its apex2007 , trailing twelve month earnings were $89.35 per share, producing a P/E ratio of 17.5. With trailing earnings today 2012 at $98.30 per share, the market is trading at an earnings multiple of 14.8. If the S&P 500 were trading at the same earnings multiple as at its 2007 peak, the index would be at 1722, roughly 18% higher than the current level despite trailing earnings only 0.5% from their all-time nominal peak. Some might be quick to point out that too high of a multiple was placed on the market at its peak, especially given that in hindsight we know that the market was overvalued given the looming risks. At a 17.5 P/E multiple, the market multiple at its peak was just a turn higher than the long-run average multiple of 16.5x. Of course, investors do not buy stocks for trailing earnings, markets are inherently forward looking. Is today's earnings multiple discount at 11% to the historical average fair?
Questions linger. Can accommodative monetary policy in the United States offset uncertainty over fiscal policy given our consistent trillion dollar deficits, growing entitlement obligations, and lack of political will to address these issues? Will foreigners who own half of our public Treasury debt continue to be willing to finance our largesse? Can economic and fiscal integration occur in the Eurozone with such disparate national economies and cultures?
Good question asked by wesis to hedge fund guy bill nye:
why do you invest in dell instead of qcom.
Answer b/c dell has a better valuation but qcom has faster earnings growth but nye believes dell is a better buy than qcom even if dell after todayâs report seems too have slower growth.
why do you invest in dell instead of qcom.
Answer b/c dell has a better valuation but qcom has faster earnings growth but nye believes dell is a better buy than qcom even if dell after todayâs report seems too have slower growth.