Low TG and HDL, high LDL, feedback welcome

I still need to read why TG shot up while HDL and LDL values went down, if you have any idea it will be welcome

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I still need to read why TG shot up while HDL and LDL values got better, if you have any idea it will be welcome
 
Oups, i'd read your point about Zinc the other way around....
Besides i'd need to shed a few % body fat if I wanted to pose as a fitness model, but looking at picture of bodies with the attached dexa scans results i'm probably below 20% when training including cardio , which i don't mind esthetically, although getting leaner is probably healthier.
More like the 10-14 range if one follows the body fat pictures lists on the net like the one below. Quickly get fatter if I don't work out though, also last year when working out low reps only and without cardio.

https://ketogains.com/2015/09/how-to-estimate-your-body-fat-percentage-bf/

I'm a bit lazy to look them up and post links but bodybuilders come up with Dexa results @10-11% with dry 6 packs crossed by visible veins. Quite another story, they leaner than the guy showing 5-9% in the link above. not trying to teach u anything abt Dexa scans btw, as u seem you do them.

If u r like that pic of 10-14% i.e you have visible ab definition and u r at 220 pounds (admittedly i don't know your height) that's pretty good. Why would you want to take AAS and try to become even bigger?
 
Matter of taste, strength is very frustrating, plus I feel smaller than i wished - there's a a funny saying among bodybuilders : "the day you start lifting you sentence yourself to be too small for life" or in this line, although it doesn't apply to everybody. Plus it's not like like i'm all natural at the moment, nor that that I don't lose a few kgs of muscle and water while putting on fat when i stop for a while.Body composition moves pretty fast when either working out hard or not working out at all.
Besides I just checked height at a doctor's office @177.7cm, which means I've started going shorter, another age related drama.
Also it seems it is rather easy to be about as muscular while getting into one's 40s and 50s as in one's youth, but it is much harder to keep or regain youth' strength. Read it several times and noticed the same.
 
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Ok, so got a new blood test, about 70 days after the first, TG shot up for some reason while HDL increased and LDL decreased significantly, all are now within the local normal range although HDL in american medical litterature should be over 40. Below are the new numbers :

TG : 134 mg/dl
CHOL: 183
HDL: 37
LDL: 112

The test this time also checked APOA and APOB which are both around the middle of the normal range, I still need to read why TG shot up while HDL and LDL values went down, if you have any idea it will be welcome fwiw below are the previous numbers.

TG : 87 mg/dl
CHOL: 186
HDL: 30.50
LDL : 154

I slowed down a lot on cardio 3 weeks ago and didn't work out for the last 10 days, will probably start again after Xmas holidays, diet has been as usual mostly, just seem to have increased eggs intake.

Besides I'm a bit disappointed with Test level @745, might be taking a lot of drugs for the result (Clomid, HCG and exemestane) Last test was about 875, not sure how levels change from day to day. Have lost quite a bit of energy since hurting my back again, although all pain has now completely disappeared. A bit talking to myself here, but will come back to this thread later on and those notes might end up useful.

Overall good numbers though, nothing screaming risk factor, even TG is not at abnormally high number and is below 200 by quite a bit. In fact below 150 is considered normal by many "Standards" So two ways to look at it.

One, it is just an anomoly but overall your numbers are good.
Two, maybe increased starch/refined carbs have pushed it up? Not sure about this one because you indicate you are still pretty active. Could be what you ate the previous 2 days before the test despite the fasting. I assume your blood sugar level was also well below 100.
 
Thanks for your feedback 85.
BG came @95, Could be lower for sure but I've had similar readings at home for several months, happy it hasn't gone up as that is probably the main risk along increased BP for adults using Growth Hormone.
I'd probably dieted 9 hours before the blood test btw, not sure this would influence TG results.
Sure satisfied with HDL and LDL moving that much in the right direction, surprised the difference is so large from last test. Need to get back to swimming after holidays - but in contrary to weightlifting I'm not improving at all at swimming, which gets frustrating.

Fwiw Monocytes numbers are still on the high end of the range @ 0.76 10 e9/L, there were @78 on the last test, and the HCT @48.6, despite giving blood a month ago (last time @49.2). That's the high end of the normal range, and apparently not the healthier. High HCT are a problem for anyone planning to use AAS btw, steroids users give blood blood as much as they can. it is quite deplorable here as the rules are 400ml max every 3 months. I think in the US it is 500ml every 2 months, with the possibility to give more often using unrelated organizations.
i'd need to look up on the net the meaning of all results, there are 9 small pages of those (9 different test package), but other numbers look well within range. Checked Thyroid, kidney and liver among other stuff.
 
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I would say try another test but on 12 hours fast. I had a nice steak dinner and fasted 12 hours before a blood test but the numbers were still skewed higher than where they were before though no other changes. I cannot say for sure but it was a possibility.

Also 95 BG is fine, it would have been lower perhaps with 3 more hours fasting.
 
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