Louisiana Church Fires

[Spike Trader]

Let's be pretty clear here - your guy started his campaign with "Mexicans are rapists" tirade, he was previously known for wanting to kill 5 young black kids for a crime they didn't commit - guy regularly rants racist things and is extremely popular among neo-nazis - so of course the criminal to be caught is going to be a Trump supporter.

Stop whining - you own this racist demented moron and his politics.

This guy goes and burns churches all because the MSN can't reconcile the Hillary f'ing LOST? And no one shall discredit him. Why did they even charge him - - - he ought to be given medals , so he can brag about it later , like Zimmerman did.
And don't expect this pimplefaced asshole to pay for the investigations or the damages to the churches.

And don't forget , now is definitely NOT THE TIME to talk about burning black churches because it happened in the past and it will happen again In the future. OK

 

[peilthetraveler]

The Huff is not a publication, there are plenty right wing websites like the Huff shitting on brown/black people

Link?

 

[Cuddles]

Wonder what the sentence difference of arson or arson+hate crime is

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/12/us/louisiana-church-fires-suspect/index.html

Louisiana arson suspect expressed disgust with Baptist churches on Facebook

(CNN)Four days before his arrest in connection with the three Louisiana Baptist church fires, Holden Matthews expressed disgust with Baptist beliefs on Facebook, CNN has learned.

Responding to a post about "afrikan spirituality," Matthews, posting under the name Noctis Matthews, said he cannot "stand all these baptists around here, bunch of brainwashed people trying to find happiness in a religion that was forced on their ancestors just as it was on mine."

A charred gas can and a debit card led to a suspect in the Louisiana black church fires
In the posting, Matthews said he wished that, "more blacks [sic] people would look into ancient beliefs of pre Christian Africa."

An acquaintance, Nygyl Bryyn, confirmed to CNN the profile and alias is that of Holden Matthews. He says his friend is not racist and believes the churches were, "victims of circumstances."

All three churches authorities say Matthews burned down were black Baptist churches in the heart of south central Louisiana's Cajun and Creole country.
The suspect is the 21-year-old son of a St. Landry Parish sheriff's deputy and may have been influenced by "black metal" music and its "associated history with church burnings," the state fire marshal's office said.

 

[peilthetraveler]

Wonder what the sentence difference of arson or arson+hate crime is

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/12/us/louisiana-church-fires-suspect/index.html

Louisiana arson suspect expressed disgust with Baptist churches on Facebook

(CNN)Four days before his arrest in connection with the three Louisiana Baptist church fires, Holden Matthews expressed disgust with Baptist beliefs on Facebook, CNN has learned.

Responding to a post about "afrikan spirituality," Matthews, posting under the name Noctis Matthews, said he cannot "stand all these baptists around here, bunch of brainwashed people trying to find happiness in a religion that was forced on their ancestors just as it was on mine."

A charred gas can and a debit card led to a suspect in the Louisiana black church fires
In the posting, Matthews said he wished that, "more blacks [sic] people would look into ancient beliefs of pre Christian Africa."

An acquaintance, Nygyl Bryyn, confirmed to CNN the profile and alias is that of Holden Matthews. He says his friend is not racist and believes the churches were, "victims of circumstances."

All three churches authorities say Matthews burned down were black Baptist churches in the heart of south central Louisiana's Cajun and Creole country.
The suspect is the 21-year-old son of a St. Landry Parish sheriff's deputy and may have been influenced by "black metal" music and its "associated history with church burnings," the state fire marshal's office said.

A "hate crime" is basically propaganda in order to add time to a white persons sentence. The term hate crime is rarely used when it's another race.

But think of it really. Arson = crime. Hate ≠ crime. But combine them together. Hate + Arson = crime x 2. How does that math add up? Accepting that "hate crimes" exist is the first step to making certain thoughts illegal.

 

[Cuddles]

A "hate crime" is basically propaganda in order to add time to a white persons sentence. The term hate crime is rarely used when it's another race.

But think of it really. Arson = crime. Hate ≠ crime. But combine them together. Hate + Arson = crime x 2. How does that math add up? Accepting that "hate crimes" exist is the first step to making certain thoughts illegal.

quit babbling nonsense. I am questioning if this is the defense's strategy.

 

[piezoe]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...nantly-black-louisiana-churches-idUSKCN1RI0HM

Prediction:

Of course they'll catch this person(s), they'll be white, a "Trump supporter", the MSM will do about 1 minute of the required due diligence, upon which will follow a week-long 24/7 deluge of this story tying it to, and blaming it all on Trump... because before 2016 there were no (dirt level IQ) racist inbreds in rural Louisiana that did such things.

So call the editor's desk and lets feed that fire... to hell with the damage it does to the bigger picture... we can saturate the airways and internet with this story and attribute it all to Trump. Hey and if we're really lucky and the "journalism" gods are on our side... they'll find a MAGA hat in this man's trailer covering his meth stash.

Open that fire-hose team... and make sure its gasoline in there.

The important observation is not that these folks existed long before Trump came on the political scene, they did!, but rather that close to 100% of them will be Trump supporters. The charge that Trump's inflammatory rhetoric at his rallies is encouraging these folks would be harder to prove, but is there a pick-up in the incidence of these crimes since Trump started scapegoating immigrants, foreign nationals, and non-whites? Or are these regrettable events just getting more play in the media since Trump became President and drew so much attention to his personal xenophobia and racial bigotry? I personally don't know the answer to these questions, but I do know that Trump's rhetoric and despicable behavior is, in the eyes of citizens of other countries, a stain on all of us who call ourselves American.

Trump evidences a similar disdain for democracy and the rule of law as other hyper-nationalists around the world. These National Leaders have consolidated power into their own hands, have either been cited for law breaking and/or have used subterfuge and underhanded tactics to pack courts with sympathetic but unqualified jurists, have forced through legislative changes that have made it more difficult for their opposition, and have even jailed opposition leaders on trumped-up charges. Trump is now being lumped in with Erdogan in Turkey, Orban in Hungary, Bolsanaro in Brazil, Kim Jong-un in North Korea, Netanyahu in Israel, Putin in Russia, Mohammad bin Salman in Saudi Arabia, and Xi Jinping in China.

 

[exGOPer]

A "hate crime" is basically propaganda in order to add time to a white persons sentence. The term hate crime is rarely used when it's another race.

But think of it really. Arson = crime. Hate ≠ crime. But combine them together. Hate + Arson = crime x 2. How does that math add up? Accepting that "hate crimes" exist is the first step to making certain thoughts illegal.

Why did he target only black churches then if it was just a arson fetish?

 

[Tsing Tao]

The important observation is not that these folks existed long before Trump came on the political scene, they did!, but rather that close to 100% of them will be Trump supporters.

Oh give it a break. This proves nothing. Someone committing a hate crime over intolerance of other races and or religions is going to tend to side with someone pushing an America first campaign strategy. This doesn't mean that pushing an America First initiative is racist, or the person pushing it is racist!

Aren't you supposed to be relatively intelligent?

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Trump is now being lumped in with Erdogan in Turkey, Orban in Hungary, Bolsanaro in Brazil, Kim Jong-un in North Korea, Netanyahu in Israel, Putin in Russia, Mohammad bin Salman in Saudi Arabia, and Xi Jinping in China.

Is there a reason why you did not mention places such as Cuba and Venezuela or is that not convenient for your message.

Nevermind.

 

[piezoe]

This doesn't mean that pushing an America First initiative is racist, or the person pushing it is racist!

Logically it shouldn't be. Nevertheless it's my guess that racist attitudes underpin much, if not nearly all, of the America First Mindset. Be that as it may however, hyper-nationalism is not good for anyone in the long run. It's a dangerous mindset that causes nations to waste their resources or armaments, and foments wars. It's a mindset that breeds narrow minded thinking, harms commerce and retards advancement.