That is because the biggest liars only know how to lie! Liberals are the biggest liars around! They are also, the biggest hypocrites around! Do as I say, not as I do when caught, in their sheer hypocrisy! You know President Trump is winning when all they can come out with is the BS of Stormy Daniels and Michael Avenatti! The Russian hacking has been debunked by an NSA expert, William Binney no less! Even the scare tactics of a trade war, failed! Of course, they will not end their BS! Thankfully, the midterm elections are coming soon enough! I cannot wait to send packing more liberal Democrats and RINOs for good! I am sure the 62 million Trump voters will too!
Lordy, there are more tapes
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I don't just accuse, I post the facts, show the contradiction and prove they are lying. Like in the case where you tried to pass off as a random paper as peer reviewed when it was not.
In your case, you are trying to pretend that lack of proof is lying which is not how any of this works.
"Post facts" ROTFL.... that's rich.
You post fiction and then regularly accuse others of lying.
In this thread -- once again we have clearly documented an example of your direct lying and fabrication of "facts".
In the future we will reference back to this thread every time you accuse others as lying.
Again, prove that I am lying, it's not my job to reference law books to provide you a reference number for the law - if you know any better then prove I am lying. Go read some books before pretending you know facts. Someone who had no problem swallowing Breitbart fake news propaganda is lecturing others on facts, that's rich.
Once again you are caught lying. Knowing very well there is no such law and you will never find a reference to it. You simply make up your own "facts" while claiming others are liars.
I am glad that everyone will bookmark this thread as an example of your continually hypocrisy for reference.
You can repeat your baseless accusations as much you want, unless you can prove I lied, you have got no basis and you got no proof - but when has that ever stopped you from claiming things Fake Peer Reviewed Paper Poster/Voter Fraud Hysteria Poster
And those who are bookmarking this thread, please bookmark this one as well on how to expose propaganda and the evolution of conservative fake news.
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...bal-warming-is-fabricated-study-finds.311099/
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/more-democratic-voting-fraud.289421/
If these audio files were snagged in a raid, it doesn't really make sense that they would have been altered prior to the raid. Unless Giuliani is insinuating that the FBI edited them.
Either way, a good audio engineer can load those things into Pro-Tools or the like (sound editing software) and they'll know in no time if they've been messed with. No way Cohen is smart enough to edit that file and not leave tells. That would require an extremely high level of skill, if it can be done at all. There'll be a component of white-noise in the (phone) recording that must stay fluid throughout, damn near impossible to cut and paste and keep that consistent.
I can see why they want the raw tape, because essentially a tape of a tape would in fact have a fluid channel of white-noise. But even at that, a good engineer should be able to isolate that from the base recording. I think lol. Pretty sure.
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Giuliani says experts think 'someone messed' with Cohen tape
By Ellison Barber, Matt Leach | Fox News
Giuliani wants raw version of Trump, Cohen tape
Rudy Giuliani explains that they need to hear the raw version of the Trump, Cohen tape that's been released. Fox News' Ellison Barber reports from Berkeley heights, New Jersey.
President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani tells Fox News two experts and retired FBI agents have analyzed the secretly recorded Trump-Cohen tape and believe it was “played” with.
“Now that we’ve seen the full scope of [Michael] Cohen and Lanny Davis’ deception, we don’t trust anything,” Giuliani said.
The tape, first obtained by CNN, was secretly recorded by the president’s former attorney, Michael Cohen.
In it, the pair can be heard discussing a payment to Karen McDougal, a Playboy model who claims she had an affair with Trump prior to his election as president.
In a phone call with Fox News Saturday evening, Giuliani said he is trying to obtain a raw copy of that tape.
According to Giuliani, analysts say the public audio is a “tape of a tape,” and because of that, they are unable to determine if Cohen cut off the recording in the room, in real time, or altered and/or erased parts of it at a later date.
“Since we don’t have the original, we asked for it,” Giuliani said. “Our expert analysis is done until we get the raw copy, which we are seeking.”
Giuliani speculated that the chances of success for obtaining the raw tape are narrow.
Authorities in the government’s investigation of Cohen are reportedly analyzing multiple recordings.
Giuliani told Fox News there are additional “Cohen tapes,” but he said the now-public Trump-Cohen tape is the only one involving the president.
The others, Giuliani explained, are recordings where Cohen is speaking with third parties and describing his version of what happened in regard to payments to McDougal and adult film star Stormy Daniels, who has also maintained she had an affair with Trump before his election as president.
Giuliani said most of the tapes are secret recordings of conversations between Cohen and reporters.
More to the point, Giuliani insisted, there’s nothing on the tapes that contradicts the positions the president has publicly taken “on all these things.”
Giuliani claimed he would welcome the release of all the so-called “Cohen tapes,” telling Fox News that if Cohen’s legal team sought his permission to release the tapes, “we would say happily, we’ll play it for everybody.
They show the president didn’t do anything wrong and that Cohen deceives people.”
Fox News reached out to Cohen’s legal team to address Giuliani's allegations, but at press time had not spoken directly with Cohen’s attorney.
However, Cohen’s attorney, Lanny Davis, did send Fox News a statement via text message.
“Mr. Giuliani seems to be confused,” Davis wrote. “He expressly waived attorney client privilege last week and repeatedly and inaccurately — as proven by the tape — talked and talked about the recording, forfeiting all confidentiality.”
In regard to reports that a so-called “joint defense agreement” between Trump and Cohen has been severed, Giuliani told Fox News he does not know if the agreement has been formally renounced. However, Giuliani said Trump’s legal team does not share information with the Cohen legal team, and that legal team does not share information in the opposite direction.
Either way, a good audio engineer can load those things into Pro-Tools or the like (sound editing software) and they'll know in no time if they've been messed with. No way Cohen is smart enough to edit that file and not leave tells. That would require an extremely high level of skill, if it can be done at all. There'll be a component of white-noise in the (phone) recording that must stay fluid throughout, damn near impossible to cut and paste and keep that consistent.
I can see why they want the raw tape, because essentially a tape of a tape would in fact have a fluid channel of white-noise. But even at that, a good engineer should be able to isolate that from the base recording. I think lol. Pretty sure.
______________________________________________
Giuliani says experts think 'someone messed' with Cohen tape
By Ellison Barber, Matt Leach | Fox News
Giuliani wants raw version of Trump, Cohen tape
Rudy Giuliani explains that they need to hear the raw version of the Trump, Cohen tape that's been released. Fox News' Ellison Barber reports from Berkeley heights, New Jersey.
President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani tells Fox News two experts and retired FBI agents have analyzed the secretly recorded Trump-Cohen tape and believe it was “played” with.
“Now that we’ve seen the full scope of [Michael] Cohen and Lanny Davis’ deception, we don’t trust anything,” Giuliani said.
The tape, first obtained by CNN, was secretly recorded by the president’s former attorney, Michael Cohen.
In it, the pair can be heard discussing a payment to Karen McDougal, a Playboy model who claims she had an affair with Trump prior to his election as president.
In a phone call with Fox News Saturday evening, Giuliani said he is trying to obtain a raw copy of that tape.
According to Giuliani, analysts say the public audio is a “tape of a tape,” and because of that, they are unable to determine if Cohen cut off the recording in the room, in real time, or altered and/or erased parts of it at a later date.
“Since we don’t have the original, we asked for it,” Giuliani said. “Our expert analysis is done until we get the raw copy, which we are seeking.”
Giuliani speculated that the chances of success for obtaining the raw tape are narrow.
Authorities in the government’s investigation of Cohen are reportedly analyzing multiple recordings.
Giuliani told Fox News there are additional “Cohen tapes,” but he said the now-public Trump-Cohen tape is the only one involving the president.
The others, Giuliani explained, are recordings where Cohen is speaking with third parties and describing his version of what happened in regard to payments to McDougal and adult film star Stormy Daniels, who has also maintained she had an affair with Trump before his election as president.
Giuliani said most of the tapes are secret recordings of conversations between Cohen and reporters.
More to the point, Giuliani insisted, there’s nothing on the tapes that contradicts the positions the president has publicly taken “on all these things.”
Giuliani claimed he would welcome the release of all the so-called “Cohen tapes,” telling Fox News that if Cohen’s legal team sought his permission to release the tapes, “we would say happily, we’ll play it for everybody.
They show the president didn’t do anything wrong and that Cohen deceives people.”
Fox News reached out to Cohen’s legal team to address Giuliani's allegations, but at press time had not spoken directly with Cohen’s attorney.
However, Cohen’s attorney, Lanny Davis, did send Fox News a statement via text message.
“Mr. Giuliani seems to be confused,” Davis wrote. “He expressly waived attorney client privilege last week and repeatedly and inaccurately — as proven by the tape — talked and talked about the recording, forfeiting all confidentiality.”
In regard to reports that a so-called “joint defense agreement” between Trump and Cohen has been severed, Giuliani told Fox News he does not know if the agreement has been formally renounced. However, Giuliani said Trump’s legal team does not share information with the Cohen legal team, and that legal team does not share information in the opposite direction.
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If these audio files were snagged in a raid, it doesn't really make sense that they would have been altered prior to the raid. Unless Giuliani is insinuating that the FBI edited them.
Either way, a good audio engineer can load those things into Pro-Tools or the like (sound editing software) and they'll know in no time if they've been messed with. No way Cohen is smart enough to edit that file and not leave tells. That would require an extremely high level of skill, if it can be done at all. There'll be a component of white-noise in the (phone) recording that must stay fluid throughout, damn near impossible to cut and paste and keep that consistent.
I can see why they want the raw tape, because essentially a tape of a tape would in fact have a fluid channel of white-noise. But even at that, a good engineer should be able to isolate that from the base recording. I think lol. Pretty sure.
______________________________________________
Giuliani says experts think 'someone messed' with Cohen tape
By Ellison Barber, Matt Leach | Fox News
Giuliani wants raw version of Trump, Cohen tape
Rudy Giuliani explains that they need to hear the raw version of the Trump, Cohen tape that's been released. Fox News' Ellison Barber reports from Berkeley heights, New Jersey.
President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani tells Fox News two experts and retired FBI agents have analyzed the secretly recorded Trump-Cohen tape and believe it was “played” with.
“Now that we’ve seen the full scope of [Michael] Cohen and Lanny Davis’ deception, we don’t trust anything,” Giuliani said.
The tape, first obtained by CNN, was secretly recorded by the president’s former attorney, Michael Cohen.
In it, the pair can be heard discussing a payment to Karen McDougal, a Playboy model who claims she had an affair with Trump prior to his election as president.
In a phone call with Fox News Saturday evening, Giuliani said he is trying to obtain a raw copy of that tape.
According to Giuliani, analysts say the public audio is a “tape of a tape,” and because of that, they are unable to determine if Cohen cut off the recording in the room, in real time, or altered and/or erased parts of it at a later date.
“Since we don’t have the original, we asked for it,” Giuliani said. “Our expert analysis is done until we get the raw copy, which we are seeking.”
Giuliani speculated that the chances of success for obtaining the raw tape are narrow.
Authorities in the government’s investigation of Cohen are reportedly analyzing multiple recordings.
Giuliani told Fox News there are additional “Cohen tapes,” but he said the now-public Trump-Cohen tape is the only one involving the president.
The others, Giuliani explained, are recordings where Cohen is speaking with third parties and describing his version of what happened in regard to payments to McDougal and adult film star Stormy Daniels, who has also maintained she had an affair with Trump before his election as president.
Giuliani said most of the tapes are secret recordings of conversations between Cohen and reporters.
More to the point, Giuliani insisted, there’s nothing on the tapes that contradicts the positions the president has publicly taken “on all these things.”
Giuliani claimed he would welcome the release of all the so-called “Cohen tapes,” telling Fox News that if Cohen’s legal team sought his permission to release the tapes, “we would say happily, we’ll play it for everybody.
They show the president didn’t do anything wrong and that Cohen deceives people.”
Fox News reached out to Cohen’s legal team to address Giuliani's allegations, but at press time had not spoken directly with Cohen’s attorney.
However, Cohen’s attorney, Lanny Davis, did send Fox News a statement via text message.
“Mr. Giuliani seems to be confused,” Davis wrote. “He expressly waived attorney client privilege last week and repeatedly and inaccurately — as proven by the tape — talked and talked about the recording, forfeiting all confidentiality.”
In regard to reports that a so-called “joint defense agreement” between Trump and Cohen has been severed, Giuliani told Fox News he does not know if the agreement has been formally renounced. However, Giuliani said Trump’s legal team does not share information with the Cohen legal team, and that legal team does not share information in the opposite direction.
Cuomo had an expert clean up the audio and check the meta data and he confirms that indeed the conversation Trump and Cohen had was cut short and another audio spliced together right after. If the convo asserts Trump making the payment in cash, then the WH leaked it.
However these charges are NOT duds. They are dead serious charges with substantial evidence having been filed with the respective courts.Russia Collusion. Dud
Stormy Daniels. Dud
Pee Pee Tape. Super Dud
“Secret” Audio tapes. Dud
Keep trying you lunatics.
Better hurry though, only six more years
MAGA
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-foundation-lawsuit-has-merit-on-many-levels-legal-expert-says/
and
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/politics/trump-emoluments-lawsuit.html
I will agree the civil suit regarding the foundation has some legal legs to stand on. The emoluments civil suit is weak both in grounds and precedence.
It should be noted these are civil actions — there are no “charges”.