Lord Stern: 'People should give up eating meat to halt climate change'

Quote from dcraig:

You are, to put it bluntly, an idiot. The first chart is not even a chart of temperature. Read the Y axis label. It says Z-Score. A Z-score of what?

The second chart conveniently ignores anything before 1960. So what if some earlier prediction was inaccurate. Science advances and a lot more is known today.

The fact remains that global warming is occurring, the long term trend is established the great majority of credible climate scientists will tell you just that - the world is warming at an alarming rate. This is not a prediction is a FACT.
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You are a mindless true believer - - unlike others, you do have the capacity to think a little. But, you will have to actually go through the reports and links provided earlier to see how they all they all fit together and fully refute all the b.s. Its a useless waste of time to provide any further evidence including the detailed explanation of the charts . . . because you folks don't read any of it or watch and logically refute any of the lectures anyway. (First tactic is to try to attack those scientists presenting it & to ignore the actual data.)

For those who want to actually decide on these issues for yourself - - please visit the links & watch the lectures. Its gonna take some time & effort. The explanation of what is in the charts (and much more) is all there. Some of it is highly technical and specialized. None of it is something that can be captured in a few cute sentences. As you'll see there many times, youre asked to please not blindly accept any of it but decide for yourself. The other side says . . . stop thinking, its all settled. Which of these approaches makes sense to you - which seems fair ? These are the same tactics that get multi billion/trillion dollar bail out and health care bills rammed through - - that havent been read by the 'lawmakers', and which they dont allow the people to read or have any say. You see that happening in those realms, - - is it just Possible that the same thing could be happening in this area ? - - The whole motivation of my posting on this is to at least get people to take a more critical look at what they have been spoon fed. The mindless 'true believers' are beyond hope - - too invested in a predetermined outcome, but youre not. - - Thank you
 
Quote from Tigerjaw:

You are a mindless true believer - - unlike others, you do have the capacity to think a little. But, you will have to actually go through the reports and links provided earlier to see how they all they all fit together and fully refute all the b.s. Its a useless waste of time to provide any further evidence including the detailed explanation of the charts . . . because you folks don't read any of it or watch and logically refute any of the lectures anyway. (First tactic is to try to attack those scientists presenting it & to ignore the actual data.)

For those who want to actually decide on these issues for yourself - - please visit the links & watch the lectures. Its gonna take some time & effort. The explanation of what is in the charts (and much more) is all there. Some of it is highly technical and specialized. None of it is something that can be captured in a few cute sentences. As you'll see there many times, youre asked to please not blindly accept any of it but decide for yourself. The other side says . . . stop thinking, its all settled. Which of these approaches makes sense to you - which seems fair ? These are the same tactics that get multi billion/trillion dollar bail out and health care bills rammed through - - that havent been read by the 'lawmakers', and which they dont allow the people to read or have any say. You see that happening in those realms, - - is it just Possible that the same thing could be happening in this area ? - - The whole motivation of my posting on this is to at least get people to take a more critical look at what they have been spoon fed. The mindless 'true believers' are beyond hope - - too invested in a predetermined outcome, but youre not. - - Thank you
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And you are a low grade political propagandist, interested only in pushing you extremist right wing notions.

I'm not interested in propaganda videos - show the peer reviewed scientific publications of the deniers. Betcha you can't. Which really says a lot.

Your pet web site is run by a couple of computer programmers - where are their research publications in the field of climate science?
 
Quote from NeoRetardo1:

Have you ever heard of the word lingo?

I constantly hear my nephew and his 13-15 year old friends scream at the video game EPIC FAIL! I have never heard anyone over the age of 25 use that term.

When you have never heard anyone over the age of 25 use the term EPIC FAIL in regular conversation you assume that a person who uses it is very young.

So are you young or are you just obsessed with keeping your 15 year old thought process?
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That's your entire "contribution" to this thread: scolding me for using young lingo. No actual comment on the thread subject, pro or con. Your fact-free blather has been very revealing.

Thanks for proving to one and all that you are nothing more than my obsessed, nagging stalker. I couldn't have posted better evidence myself.

I feel sorry for those here in P&R whom you will continue to bore with more inanities from your constipated brain and diarrhetic mouth but I have better things to do with my time than waste it on you.

NeoRetardo1 >>>> ignore
 
Quote from dcraig:

And you are a low grade political propagandist, interested only in pushing you extremist right wing notions.
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Im an indendent actually and definitely don't believe the 'right' or the 'left'. . . . because the politicians only fool people with those distinctions to rip them off. Thus all the Rep zombies went along with everything 'their guy' Bush wanted and now the Dem zombies go along with everything that their guy O. is pushing. When investigating this for myself I asked "What does the best evidence say to me ?" in an open minded manner without prejudgement or agenda. I urge others to do the same.

Folks these posts are actually for independents and fair minded people from the two major parites, the hardcore believers are beyond help - - - There are various links provided to studies both for laymen and those that are highly technical. I can post statements from the most accomplished atmospheric scientists and you just know the true believers are going to use the same old tactics - - - attack the scientist as paid off by the 'corporate elites'. But they never ask the same questions to their side, 'who might benefit from this?'. And you know they didnt look at the hour and a half video at all, much less with an open mind. - - Beware when they call you 'extremist right wing' - - youre likely to be treated to 'the race card' soon after that !

All I ask is that you don't believe anything that is said by anyone , but verify it for yourself and make your own decisions. Dont fall for those who would say 'the matter is settled & the debate is over' or talk about some kind of 'emergency'. - - We may not all be atmospheric scientists, but most of us have that inner antenna that tells us something may be up when someone is trying to give us the bums rush. And, just for the heck of it, - - - go into a used bookstore. Find old magazines and look at the covers from 30 some years ago - back in the 70s. You'll find all sorts of articles warning about the coming 'Global Iceage' with all sorts of so called scientists presenting their predictions. - - Is it just possible, that self serving hysteria that happened before, could happen now ? Thank you.

Here's a clip that could very well apply to 'true believers' in Both parties, not just those interviewed this time. People are funny, I guess:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgfA2b9YSag&NR=1
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Quote from kut2k2:

That's your entire "contribution" to this thread: scolding me for using young lingo. No actual comment on the thread subject, pro or con. Your fact-free blather has been very revealing.

Thanks for proving to one and all that you are nothing more than my obsessed, nagging stalker. I couldn't have posted better evidence myself.

I feel sorry for those here in P&R whom you will continue to bore with more inanities from your constipated brain and diarrhetic mouth but I have better things to do with my time than waste it on you.

NeoRetardo1 >>>> ignore
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Wow that was phat kut2k2.

How about we hit the skatepark and smoke some dro?
 
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