Quote from Gringinho:
I think it's both about "payback-time" and about mindless thugs. They are crazy bastards, but they seem to be warring against police and the establishment, while lashing out at everyone.
Seeing reports of how it is being a black father in the southern states, it's no surprise they're frustrated. The chance of being jailed for not wearing a t-shirt or whatever reason seems pretty high when you're black around there.
Quote from mahram:
yeah but tell that to the 8 year old girl that gang of thugs raped and murdered and left her body drifting on the dirty water. These thugs are animals. Listen to what the mayor new orleans is saying, he is black and he agrees with me, that a shoot to kill or is needed. Its just disgusting, it takes 5 days for help to come, all the while bush is taking a vacation.
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Quote from TGM:
Actually you are wrong. I view foul language as distasteful. Oh and I don't hint. I grew up in a Commie household Rearden. Far far left. I know the people that wrote most of the propaganda out there in the US textbooks. I am simply stating A=A. I am actually a Libertarian by the way.
I did not read Civil War 2 until a year ago. The far right started getting massive voting blocks across europe and I started doing my homework on them. I am a political analyst and I trade forex (macro as well). Civil War 2 is one of the books that make many all of their reading lists. Since it is their view of the political trends int the US. I read it. It says nothing new. Unless you are unacquainted with History. Although, some of the quotes in it from our leaders were surprising. You want to find geopolitical trends? You have to start reading what THEY are reading. They being those trying to come to power.
"TGM, I've had this feeling for years, that we the minority ethnic groups in the U.S. have pushed diversity down white people's throats a bit too far...and one day the pendulum would swing back against us."
Well like I said then. White people love saving things. They are the best at it. That is their gift and curse. Minorities did not push anything. A minority cannot by definition do anything the majority does not want or does not vote for.
Quote from Rearden Metal:
Perhaps my assessment was a bit harsh then.
In that case let me ask you:
The U.S. is now composed of over 30% non-aryans, for lack of a better term. You give the impression that you believe 'something must be done with them.'
My question is...what?
Quote from TGM:
Well I have yet to read a concrete definition of an Aryan. You mean what would I do with the rising non-european population? Nothing. I believe libertarian solutions would work. What are libertarian solutions? Freedom of Association no matter how ridiculous or stupid, no affirmative action, get everyone out of everyone face and do not allow anyone to scream racism. Basically, just go to a live and let live society. Simplify and strip down America into a Libertarian State. No equality commissions no civil rights junkets.
Over the course of time, a natural separation (that already exists for the most part) would set in. Some big cities like New York would be big melting pots but others wouldn't. This way if (when) the country separates it could be peaceful because you cannot have forced integration with freedom of association. Forcing people into areas against their will ---is always disastrous.
I would shut off immigration immediately. I would not deport illegals but I would not give them citizenship. I would let attrition of them getting layed off from work, caught by immigration authorities etc...take them out of the country (enforcing laws works as well). Over a few years, they would be gone.
I would basically leave people alone. Bring back the strict common sense property rights. In other words, if you try to break in and destroy Korean shops in LA and they shoot you. It is your own damn fault. No calling Johnny Cochran.
Of course, no one is talking about real solutions. No one faces facts until it is forced on them by reality. That is Human Nature. The problem in this country is that noone is treated like human beings. You are either an Angel--incapable of doing any wrong. Or a devil---incapable of doing anything right. Angels and Devils are not human. One thing that has shocked people is that they are seeing what is really going on. My God, can you imagine if the internet was around for the LA riots? The world would be totally shocked. Can imagine what would happen if the Koreans set upon blacks and starting attacking their property. There would be declarations at the UN etc ...etc... Or could you imagine if the KKK attacked and looted African businesses? What would happen. Honestly? A libertarian country would NOT allow double standards to set in.
Alot of stuff has been spun for years. It is just getting more difficult to do the spinning. Especially, since everyone has their own online media company. All you need is a camcorder.
Quote from TGM:
India is fine in some areas. However, the lower castes are outbreeding the upper castes. We will see how stable they are in the future with the rising Muslim population. Do you think they are going to let the rising Muslim population deside their future? No way. Well then. Multiculturism is some instances just wont work.
There are way to many ways to play with words. I believe you can have a multicultural european country, maybe a multicultural asian, etc etc. But having some polyglot of people who have never gotten along is not going to work. Never. Not long term. I used to think it would with Libertarian solutions. But I dont anymore.
Oh and Greece was NOT multicultural--- Until the sacking of Delphi!!! I don't know what you are smoking. And nice immature comment about sheets and horses. Typical for Utopian thinking people. Someone points out facts and you smear. I doubt you would say that slimey comment in person. Or at least you wouldn't say more than once.
IMHO you are wrong on some points and correct on others.Quote from TGM:
Japan and China and Korea maybe "technically" multicultural states. You can call anything a multicultural state. You will NOT see Japan accept millions of third worlders. Oh they may have some Koreans. They are not going to give them affirmative action. Are they? Of course not. Japan is for the Japanese. Always has been and always will be. That is my point. The overriding culture is unanimous in agreement that it should stay that way. Every society has a social caste etc etc. My point is that the Japan, China, Korea are not going to commit cultural suicide. They are not going to let in say Nigerians who have on average 7 kids and allow them to take over the country.
Quote from hapaboy:
IMHO you are wrong on some points and correct on others.
I think you're right that Japan will not simply open the floodgates. HOWEVER, I believe you are going to see them accepting millions of third-worlders.
They have to.
They've been allowing skilled, IT proficient third-worlders from India and the like for sometime now. They were letting South Americans of Japanese descent, i.e. Brazil & Peru, for manufacturing jobs, but now many of those jobs are being outsourced to China, and they've pretty much emptied the well on those from SA wanting to live and work in Japan. With the rapidly aging population, they are starting to allow in SouthEast Asians for in-home care and the like. The populating aging/low birth rate issues go hand in hand; millions of workers will be needed for those jobs, which are not the first choice of the Japanese youth.
No, Japan is not "multicultural" to the extent that we or Europe are. They probably never will be. But they will have to let in foreign workers to make up for the human resource inequities.
What the f**k are you talking about? We're discussing Japan here.Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Oh yeah, that's the ticket.
We grade citizenship.
First class citizenship, second class citizenship, third class citizenship.....why didn't the founding fathers think of that?