Looks like Victor Niederhoffer blew up again

Soros outlined that Niederhoffer liked to swim against the direction of the waves coming it. 49 out of 50 times it went well after averaging into losers that eventually turned around. However, every once in a while a tsunami hit the shores that Niederhoffer didn't see coming and he got killed.
VN sounds like a basic degenerate gambler. Good luck investing with one of those.
 
Victor has shined as a teacher and mentor, a chip off the old block as documented in his first book. The fact that he has mentored so many -many of whom he does not know or hardly knows - is an admirable track record that has and will continue to stand the test of time.

Also, I have been told from a reputable source the world's greatest living non-automated trader bar-none.
 
Vic you seem okay to me. I think the market humbles us all who stick with it and you seem to have responded with a quiet dignity that is lost on many. I hope you continue to write and give interviews as rich body of experience in risk management. I have found pearls of wisdom in your story and I am sure many others have as well.

"quiet"
vic + quiet are oxymorons.

the one thing vic has certainly been right and he griped about it foryears is that the currency desks of the banks are filled with crooks, who front run and manipulate markets. it is coming to a head with gov't investigations and fines.

" I think you have a rich body of experience in risk management. "
he certainly has after blowing up numerous times. yes, one might learn from it. the question is can he learn from it?
 
Vic you seem okay to me. I think the market humbles us all who stick with it and you seem to have responded with a quiet dignity that is lost on many. I hope you continue to write and give interviews as I think you have a rich body of experience in risk management. I have found pearls of wisdom in your story and I am sure many others have as well.

It is better for a good trader to out-humble the market and then one can't be humbled by it. My first big surprise lesson (two decades or more ago) was when everything was working so well in my trading. I thought I had found the magic key. Now I tend to get suspicious when I earn a lot in a short period of time.

I admire the courage of someone who will face his accusers and show them as the ghosts that they are. It is better to have loved and lost ( and started over again) than never to have lost. Didn't Tim Cook blow out as well and turn it around?

Lucky for me, I have never blown out an account because I avoid excessive leverage. I hope it stays that way. Good post.
 
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the one thing vic has certainly been right and he griped about it foryears is that the currency desks of the banks are filled with crooks, who front run and manipulate markets. it is coming to a head with gov't investigations and fines.....

I suspect that crooks often appear in trading since even the intakes into the investment houses suffer from the 95-5 rule of success. If trading were so easy, then why pay so much? (Burger flippers don't get paid that well.) Many edges appear as humans find easier methods of making money than trading. IMO it takes a special kind of talent and chutzpah to steal from clients while getting bonuses for it and appearing on TV spreading mis-information to those same clients.
 
Victor has shined as a teacher and mentor, a chip off the old block as documented in his first book. The fact that he has mentored so many -many of whom he does not know or hardly knows - is an admirable track record that has and will continue to stand the test of time.
Who cares if he was a great teacher and mentor? What's next we'll hear if Vic has a loving father? Maybe he was donating to charity?

At the end of the day Vic was an arrogant prick constantly pissing on those on the other sides of his trades and taking great joy when they suffered losses. Go back on his blog and read his posts 2006-2007. He was full of it.

He was lacking any sort of humility and therefore deserves absolutely no compassion in his demise.
 
Who cares if he was a great teacher and mentor? What's next we'll hear if Vic has a loving father? Maybe he was donating to charity?

At the end of the day Vic was an arrogant prick constantly pissing on those on the other sides of his trades and taking great joy when they suffered losses. Go back on his blog and read his posts 2006-2007. He was full of it.

He was lacking any sort of humility and therefore deserves absolutely no compassion in his demise.

What's wrong with you -- Living like a hermit too long under the bridge? What better a legacy could any man wish for than being able to pass along knowledge that creates a dozen plus 100 million to billion dollar fund managers-- and change their entire families for generations, not to mention the world via them?

Vic freely gives his knowledge, heck he even answers the critics on this thread. You don't see many other 100' millionaires do this, do you?

Stoner
 
What's wrong with you -- Living like a hermit too long under the bridge? What better a legacy could any man wish for than being able to pass along knowledge that creates a dozen plus 100 million to billion dollar fund managers-- and change their entire families for generations, not to mention the world via them?

Vic freely gives his knowledge, heck he even answers the critics on this thread. You don't see many other 100' millionaires do this, do you?

Stoner

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