The leftist utopias like North Korea and Cuba are full of people just like piezoe. It's guilt by association. Entire families are imprisoned. This is how they deal with political enemies. The message is clear. Dare to even associate with a political rival and they'll come after you too. They're currently doing a trial run of this fascist policy with the Trump investigation. Can't find a crime to investigate, start investigating people to look for a crime. Given their own corruption they believe everyone is guilty of something.
Looks like the hush payments came from the campaign donations
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Just accept that you were forced to make garbage arguments attempting to defend your garbage statement.
Then when you made a ridiculous statement about Trump being a felon because Cohen made a statement you got spun.
Its O.K. no need to debase yourself further with fake arguments. Quit while you can.
How many times have I just said you should wait for the evidence.
I suspect your suspicions are correct. Trump probably did something crooked. Mueller should have something by now. Lets just see what he has.
Then when you made a ridiculous statement about Trump being a felon because Cohen made a statement you got spun.
Its O.K. no need to debase yourself further with fake arguments. Quit while you can.
How many times have I just said you should wait for the evidence.
I suspect your suspicions are correct. Trump probably did something crooked. Mueller should have something by now. Lets just see what he has.
"The Clintons were never charged with any crime." Your words, not mine.
So what does this have to do with Trump. Is it, "well, he was a jerk so it's OK for Trump to be a jerk. Is that what it's about???Or is it just some more "what-abouts" to serve as a diversion?
You're getting more poindexterish. Perhaps you should stop and try to salvage what little credibility you have left. By the way, its the usual courtesy when you cite Wiki to give the link. I guess the red stuff is hyperlinks. But for us old guys, may I condescend to request a regular web link to the whole thing.
One other thing. I will, as a courtesy, point out neither Bill nor Hillary Clinton are President, nor Al Capone, nor Jeffrey Dahmer, nor is Tom DeLay. Donald J. Trump is. So if you insist on mentioning persons having no connection to this thread, don't be surprised if I don't respond.
here is a nice link for you: https://www.vox.com/2018/8/21/17766218/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-trump-impeached-indicted
The only reason that Trump hasn’t been indicted is that he’s the president
The debate over indicting presidents, explained.
By Dylan Matthews@dylanmattdylan@vox.com Aug 21, 2018, 6:45pm EDT
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President Donald Trump during a meeting with House Republicans in the White House on July 17, 2018 in Washington, DC.
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Michael Cohen, the former personal attorney for President Donald Trump, has pleaded guilty to eight criminal charges. Two of the charges are campaign finance offenses involving his payment of hush money to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, two women who say they had affairs with Trump.
Strikingly, Cohen admitted in court that he worked “in coordination with and at the direction of a candidate for federal office” to make one payment; the other was made merely “in coordination with” the candidate. While Trump wasn’t named, that effectively implicates him in the underlying crimes here: willfully causing an illegal corporate contribution and making an excessive campaign contribution.
Several law professors told my colleague Sean Illing that if Cohen’s account can be proven, it means Trump himself is guilty of federal crimes. “Although the president is not named in the charges, he is all but an unindicted co-conspirator,”* Duke’s Lisa Kern Griffin told Illing.
Lanny Davis, Cohen’s attorney, agrees:
“Trump is clearly guilty of violating campaign finance laws and also guilty of federal conspiracy as well (because he agreed with Cohen, and possibly others, on a plan to violate federal law),” Cornell’s Jens David Ohlin added to Illing. “Normally he would be indicted right away. But that won’t happen only because he’s the president.”
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*For your benefit I'll explain this. Trump is never mentioned by name in the indictment. He is referred to as "a candidate for Federal Office." This does not matter of course, because when they do indict him after he is out of office, his name will be spelled out in the indictment: "Donald J. Trump".
Why would that stop the leftards ?
They called Trump a rapist for His pussy comment.
They don’t understand the law.
He’s your president, too.
Unless you are a foreigner???
Is that why Trump, to this day, wants his DOJ to go after his political rivals? You mean like that?
"Probably" ???? Ha ha ha ha ha. Yah. "probably"! What in the hell is the matter with you guys.
I trust Davis on this kind of thing. I think Cohen probably over stepped a bit. Nevertheless with all the flippers flipping about they will surely confirm Trump had knowledge of virtually everything. Circumstantially it would be highly improbable for him not to have had. But let's wait. We haven't heard a thing out of Mueller so far other than what's in the numerous indictments. There is going to be a lot more coming. My favorite movie after this is going to be "Flipper", and probably Mueller's too.
. Has manafort flipped yet. Trump can pardon him, but then it is even worse for trump because manafort can then be forced to testify truthfully or go straight to jail. There is no fifth amendment for him then.Now that we know Lanny Davis was lying, I have to walk that back to "may have" done something crooked. If they are going to get Trump its most likely through Cohen.
Let me point out to you what the law professors in your article stated...
"If Cohens account can be proven"....
See that is the big if.
Lanny just said he was lying about what Cohen will tell us.
Cohen may have no evidence Trump knew about the meeting.
And if Trump used his own money to pay off the women there is unlikely to even be a campain finance issue.
"Several law professors told my colleague Sean Illing that if Cohen’s account can be proven, it means Trump himself is guilty of federal crimes. “Although the president is not named in the charges, he is all but an unindicted co-conspirator,”* Duke’s Lisa Kern Griffin told Illing."
Let me point out to you what the law professors in your article stated...
"If Cohens account can be proven"....
See that is the big if.
Lanny just said he was lying about what Cohen will tell us.
Cohen may have no evidence Trump knew about the meeting.
And if Trump used his own money to pay off the women there is unlikely to even be a campain finance issue.
"Several law professors told my colleague Sean Illing that if Cohen’s account can be proven, it means Trump himself is guilty of federal crimes. “Although the president is not named in the charges, he is all but an unindicted co-conspirator,”* Duke’s Lisa Kern Griffin told Illing."
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