Looks like the hush payments came from the campaign donations

[Frederick Foresight]

The burden, as stated by others, is on those doing the accusing. We all know that. Those defending the accused will demand to see the evidence. We all know that too. All I'm really pointing out in this thread and others, ad nauseam, is that this investigation has been going on for months and months. We can agree on that, right.

Sure. But you really don't see any coalescing of bread crumbs, dots and so on?

And the Mueller investigation has been going on for months and months, you say? Gowdy investigated Benghazi from 2014 to 2016. The GOP's eight-committee investigation of Benghazi found nothing. Go ahead, tell me more about your outrage.

 

[exGOPer]

“A former Trump World Tower doorman who says he has knowledge of an alleged affair President Trump had with an ex-housekeeper, which resulted in a child, is now able to talk about a contract he entered with American Media Inc. that had prohibited him from discussing the matter with anyone,” CNN reports.

“The contract appears to have been signed on Nov. 15, 2015, and states that AMI has exclusive rights to the doorman’s story but does not mention the details of the story itself beyond saying, ‘Source shall provide AMI with information regarding Donald Trump’s illegitimate child…'”

The doorman’s lawyer says he “hopes the truth will come out in the very near future.”

 

[Slartibartfast]

“A former Trump World Tower doorman who says he has knowledge of an alleged affair President Trump had with an ex-housekeeper, which resulted in a child, is now able to talk about a contract he entered with American Media Inc. that had prohibited him from discussing the matter with anyone,” CNN reports.

“The contract appears to have been signed on Nov. 15, 2015, and states that AMI has exclusive rights to the doorman’s story but does not mention the details of the story itself beyond saying, ‘Source shall provide AMI with information regarding Donald Trump’s illegitimate child…'”

The doorman’s lawyer says he “hopes the truth will come out in the very near future.”

Not that much of a surprise that the bastard has a bastard.

 

[piezoe]

Well, I'll admit what possibly you choose not to admit in public: that the 2016 general election presented a dilemma more than a choice to many voters. I personally saw both Trump and HRC as deeply flawed persons. Most Trump voters knew his was a deeply flawed personality before November 8, 2016. You ask what would change Trump voters minds and force them to abandon their tribalism: IMHO that would be him cheating on his wife or committing a serious crime undermining the United State's best interests while in office as President. That would also compel a substantial number of Republicans in the House and Senate to denounce him publicly and abandon him. In my mind that's the only scenario I could envision where you would get 2/3'rds of the Senate to vote to Pass a House Impeachment Resolution.

Most Republicans view the Mueller investigation through the same prism as most Democrats viewed the Starr investigation during President Clinton's term - as orchestrated tribal witch hunts.

Say what you will about Nancy Pelosi - but like many old horses she has a long memory for certain things. She remembers that the House Republicans pursuing an impeachment vote without the votes in the Senate dearly cost the Republicans. Ms. Pelosi held the gavel in the House for over a decade courtesy of the House Republican impeachment debacle.

For the most part I agree with your analysis of the situation. It will be nearly impossible to get a conviction in the Senate short of Trump being found with a live, naked Russian boy in his bed. He has already been caught being unfaithful to his wife, shown to be a felon and admitted to grabbing women he hardly knew "by the pussy." That's barely raised an eyebrow among Republican Senators. Warren hatch was amazed at "how good Trump is" considering he came from New York. I don't even think that the cascade of money laundering and tax evasion charges about to descend on Trump will be enough, nor will even his having been found to act in direct violation of the Constitution and his Oath in a Court of Law. (see the emolument cases going forward at this time.) There is something, however, that in my opinion might possibly be enough to get a two-thirds vote, short of the romp with the Russian boy I mentioned earlier, and that would be irrefutable proof of his campaign having paid for some of the Russian Hacking and/or actively having coordinated the Hacking with the campaign. But even then, I'm not sure.

Of course, once Trump's toady pick for the Supreme Court, the oleaginous* Kavanaugh, is safely on the bench, the Republicans will breathe easier no matter what transpires with the pugnacious, veracity-challenged Mr. Trump. But wouldn't it make sense to get this over? Why not Dump Trump, let the obsequious Pence take over; then concentrate on getting Kavanaugh seated? He'd still be the nominee whether Trump is living at 1400 Pennsylvania Ave. or in Morgantown -- ping pong, bumper pool, but no golf, classes in plumbing available . Or do it in reverse order, but do it quickly. If instead of looking like fools and furnishing material for 2018 Democrat political ads, the Republican Senators started acting like responsible adults and concentrated on dumping Trump and putting Kavanaugh on the Bench, I think they might actually be able to redeem themselves (some) in the eyes of the American Voter, and possibly shorten the party's period of ignominy that's bound to follow.

With the seating of two young, radical-right Justices, McConnell & Co.'s work will be over. There will be no need to prolong the ridiculousness. The longer they pretend their President has done nothing wrong and praise him as being at least as good as can be expected coming from New York, the longer they look like fools. The sooner they dump trump and wash their hands, the sooner they can start to regain credibility. It won't take long, we voters have short memories.

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* a delightfully apropos descriptor borrowed from George Will.

 

[bone]

For the most part I agree with your analysis of the situation. It will be nearly impossible to get a conviction in the Senate short of Trump being found with a live, naked Russian boy in his bed. He has already been caught being unfaithful to his wife, shown to be a felon and admitted to grabbing women he hardly knew "by the pussy." That's barely raised an eyebrow among Republican Senators. Warren hatch was amazed at "how good Trump is" considering he came from New York. I don't even think that the cascade of money laundering and tax evasion charges about to descend on Trump will be enough, nor will even his having been found to act in direct violation of the Constitution and his Oath in a Court of Law. (see the emolument cases going forward at this time.) There is something, however, that in my opinion might possibly be enough to get a two-thirds vote, short of the romp with the Russian boy I mentioned earlier, and that would be irrefutable proof of his campaign having paid for some of the Russian Hacking and/or actively having coordinated the Hacking with the campaign. But even then, I'm not sure.

Of course, once Trump's toady pick for the Supreme Court, the oleaginous* Kavanaugh, is safely on the bench, the Republicans will breathe easier no matter what transpires with the pugnacious, veracity-challenged Mr. Trump. But wouldn't it make sense to get this over? Why not Dump Trump, let the obsequious Pence take over; then concentrate on getting Kavanaugh seated? He'd still be the nominee whether Trump is living at 1400 Pennsylvania Ave. or in Morgantown -- ping pong, bumper pool, but no golf, classes in plumbing available . Or do it in reverse order, but do it quickly. If instead of looking like fools and furnishing material for 2018 Democrat political ads, the Republican Senators started acting like responsible adults and concentrated on dumping Trump and putting Kavanaugh on the Bench, I think they might actually be able to redeem themselves (some) in the eyes of the American Voter, and possibly shorten the party's period of ignominy that's bound to follow.

With the seating of two young, radical-right Justices, McConnell & Co.'s work will be over. There will be no need to prolong the ridiculousness. The longer they pretend their President has done nothing wrong and praise him as being at least as good as can be expected coming from New York, the longer they look like fools. The sooner they dump trump and wash their hands, the sooner they can start to regain credibility. It won't take long, we voters have short memories.

______
* a delightfully apropos descriptor borrowed from George Will.

I give the odds better than 50/50 that the House goes barely Democrat in 2018 purely on “impeach Trump” geographical voter turnout and historical midterm norms but the Senate remains Republican by virtue of so few seats being in play. Ryan, Gowdy, etc. [Chaffetz] are getting out of the House for good reason.

Unless Trump does something insanely felonious DURING HIS TERM I don’t see the Senate Republicans running him out of town simply because: 1. They CAN work with Joe Biden and Joe Biden CAN win a General Election, and 2. Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders CAN’T win a General Election. (No, I don’t trust the media’s generic ballot polling so don’t reply with all your Hill and Politico polling links that’s just so much flawed methodology bullshit)

I do honestly think you will see a female President sooner than later - but IMO it will be in the mold of a Tulsi Gabbard or a Nikki Haley.

Popular vote counts in urban centers do not win General Elections - you need to show up in rural and suburban areas. [For the crybabies out there - If you don’t like it repeal and replace the Twelfth Amendment to the Constitution.]. Yes, there is a way to do it - invoke Article 5. Yes, it’s difficult but it’s supposed to be difficult to take away or alter Constitutional rights and protections. Same goes for the Second Amendment, btw.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Nimrata (Nikki) Randhawa an actual pure blood Indian vs Elizabeth Warren.

I reckon this Beto O'Rourke as perhaps Warren's running mate.

If he can produce this on demand..

Trump's name for Niki would probably be Apu.

 

[TJustice]

Being that there is no way paying hush money is a legitimate campaign expense your article seems to argue that Trump is not guilty of campaign finance violations because he used his own money.
(by the way I am not convinced he did use his own money.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...vertently-admit-violating-federal-law-n903246

Analysis: Trump told Fox News he paid hush money to two women out of his own pocket. Federal election law requires that kind of expense to be reported publicly.

 

[TJustice]

Most of what you wrote is misdirection or worse.
He never "admitted" to grabbing he said that is what you can do when you are famous.
There is no evidence of money laundering by Trump
Your emoluments cases are petty and will amount to nothing against Trump. You think an emoluments infraction would equal impeachment? Perhaps his hotels would have to disgorge the fees paid by foreign leaders.

You all should stick to what is real. When and if Mueller presents real charges.

For the most part I agree with your analysis of the situation. It will be nearly impossible to get a conviction in the Senate short of Trump being found with a live, naked Russian boy in his bed. He has already been caught being unfaithful to his wife, shown to be a felon and admitted to grabbing women he hardly knew "by the pussy." That's barely raised an eyebrow among Republican Senators. Warren hatch was amazed at "how good Trump is" considering he came from New York. I don't even think that the cascade of money laundering and tax evasion charges about to descend on Trump will be enough, nor will even his having been found to act in direct violation of the Constitution and his Oath in a Court of Law. (see the emolument cases going forward at this time.) There is something, however, that in my opinion might possibly be enough to get a two-thirds vote, short of the romp with the Russian boy I mentioned earlier, and that would be irrefutable proof of his campaign having paid for some of the Russian Hacking and/or actively having coordinated the Hacking with the campaign. But even then, I'm not sure.

Of course, once Trump's toady pick for the Supreme Court, the oleaginous* Kavanaugh, is safely on the bench, the Republicans will breathe easier no matter what transpires with the pugnacious, veracity-challenged Mr. Trump. But wouldn't it make sense to get this over? Why not Dump Trump, let the obsequious Pence take over; then concentrate on getting Kavanaugh seated? He'd still be the nominee whether Trump is living at 1400 Pennsylvania Ave. or in Morgantown -- ping pong, bumper pool, but no golf, classes in plumbing available . Or do it in reverse order, but do it quickly. If instead of looking like fools and furnishing material for 2018 Democrat political ads, the Republican Senators started acting like responsible adults and concentrated on dumping Trump and putting Kavanaugh on the Bench, I think they might actually be able to redeem themselves (some) in the eyes of the American Voter, and possibly shorten the party's period of ignominy that's bound to follow.

With the seating of two young, radical-right Justices, McConnell & Co.'s work will be over. There will be no need to prolong the ridiculousness. The longer they pretend their President has done nothing wrong and praise him as being at least as good as can be expected coming from New York, the longer they look like fools. The sooner they dump trump and wash their hands, the sooner they can start to regain credibility. It won't take long, we voters have short memories.

______
* a delightfully apropos descriptor borrowed from George Will.

 

[bone]

Being that there is no way paying hush money is a legitimate campaign expense your article seems to argue that Trump is not guilty of campaign finance violations because he used his own money.
(by the way I am not convinced he did use his own money.)

That’s a perfectly reasonable argument, but you have to extend the logic: what’s going to get him impeached in the SENATE or lose him the 2020 general election?

 

[TJustice]

A really solid democrat candidate who has never played the divide the races game is what will cause him to lose the 2020 election. None of those candidates are currently in politics right now.

But, if he committed a serious crime and the proof is out there, then many democrats could beat him and he might lose in the primaries.

That’s a perfectly reasonable argument, but you have to extend the logic: what’s going to get him impeached in the SENATE or lose him the 2020 general election?