Looking for an apprentice

[DDR]

I had a pretty good laugh reading this thread, but it should have been moved to the humour section a few pages back.

 

[victorycountry]

I have been trading for a while now, I have seen my money evaporate, and lived through the frustration of "not getting it". After I finally made it through, and given that paying forward was a requirement from the kind soul who taught me how to trade I decided to find a way to develop new traders in this art/science of trading.

So I developed a method to get new people who want to start a path in trading to find the end of the tunnel sooner rather than later. I made a pilot, a huge pilot and 98% of those involved failed in the attempt, but at the end 2% were able to make a profit, not billions, not enough to change their yacht, but good enough not to have to look for a job ever again (if they keep doing it right).

The method is simple:

1. You need to want to become a trader, not just making money trading, but having a deep desire to make trading your career.
2. You will have to do homework, and I mean a lot of homework, dedication and record keeping is paramount in order to succeed in this line of business.
3. You will have to be patient, it will take between 6 months to a year before you can place a trade with real money.
4. You will need to understand that the only one responsible for your success is you.

I will provide guidance, and enforce discipline when required and I will not tolerate laziness or stupidity, I just dont have the time for that. But I am really interested in helping other traders thrive just for the sake of helping.

I know trolls will fall upon me asking for my blotter and demanding I provide a tested system, I will not provide any or the above. As the system that those interested will be trading will be one designed by them and by them alone, I am not offering a holly grail system, but a methodology to build, backtest, forwardtest and finally trade your own system.

As a trackrecord, I only have that 2% who I have successfully managed to get funded by a prop firm in Chicago, something that I will also help those interested to achieve.

I will not charge a dime for those who are really interested, and for those who I see that have no real interest I will just not help. If there is nobody interested I will just go somewhere else.

If you are interested hurry up and reply here or send me a PM whatever makes you comfortable, If a hundred people show up, I will have to start in a first come first served as I am only one person, so I apologize in advance.

Thanks for reading and if you want the help to be provided in spanish I can deal with that as well.

Are you not spydertrader ? One of old ETmembers in 2009 ... the one who was a hedge fund manager back then and I think spydertrder was latin who speaks fluent spanish as welll...its just that all those who are defending you are the ones who were around Jack Heysey's threads and spydertrder was close to Jack as well. After checking some of spydertrders old threads, the writing style is somewhat similar too...maybe I am wrong...

 

[fortydraws]

If truly desire to just help people, why not just post the proposed "method", disclose previous ET username(s) and proceed in journal format...

One doesn't have to look further than how this thread itself has developed to see why one would want to keep this out of a public journal. In addition to that, the observations by @Handle123 certainly support not doing a mentorship in public:

It is very difficult to mentor others, too often they have many problems dealing with discipline, unwilling to do what is asked of them, unwilling to do sim till they are able to show profitability.

As I said, what the OP proposes strikes me as very similar to the process I followed myself. Whereas I was able to do the work, make and note my observations, develop and test hypotheses on my own without having someone over my shoulder to keep me at it, it would seem many, perhaps most never even start the correct process, much less stick to it long enough to endure and come up with a viable trading plan. Seems as though the OP is offering to be that "over the shoulder" reminder of what needs to get done. Is he qualified? Who knows? Who cares? If you are one of the many ET'ers who has been spinning wheels and losing for years, what do you have to lose by giving it a try? At least he's not asking for a monthly paypal contribution or selling a $250/month trade call subscription.

 

[zdreg]

He insulted my line drawing.. He drew blood.. No one insults my line drawing and I mean no one... Plus I only said he was acting like a asswipe not that he was an asswipe.. Big difference there.

I like to draw lines... Lots and lots of lines. If only Jack Hershey could see me now.

Chris - aka 'line drawer'

"Plus I only said he was acting like a asswipe not that he was an asswipe.. Big difference there."
you are right. i've made that distinguishment myself many time between using the word acting and the word is.

 

[Spectre2007]

Lol.. You guys its all in fun. Try not to stress over meaningless things. We are just a speck in a vast ocean called the Cosmos. Reference anything in your life to that. A gamma ray burst aimed at our lil blue planet could snuff us out any second.

 

[NoBias]

One doesn't have to look further than how this thread itself has developed to see why one would want to keep this out of a public journal. In addition to that, the observations by @Handle123 certainly support not doing a mentorship in public:



As I said, what the OP proposes strikes me as very similar to the process I followed myself. Whereas I was able to do the work, make and note my observations, develop and test hypotheses on my own without having someone over my shoulder to keep me at it, it would seem many, perhaps most never even start the correct process, much less stick to it long enough to endure and come up with a viable trading plan. Seems as though the OP is offering to be that "over the shoulder" reminder of what needs to get done. Is he qualified? Who knows? Who cares? If you are one of the many ET'ers who has been spinning wheels and losing for years, what do you have to lose by giving it a try? At least he's not asking for a monthly paypal contribution or selling a $250/month trade call subscription.

Then why the new nick? He doesn't need to conduct the mentorship in public, but if he is truly altruistic he could be a bit more transparent...

Life as in trading is all about perception... you may see it as a noble gesture, others (myself) see it as a possible exploit...

And yes those of us who have developed a niche for ourselves did it primarily through hardwork, study and a little bit of luck.

The inexperienced, naive and wide eye dreamers are ripe to be exploited. I despise scam's, snake oil ... so yes I am skeptical when a one post wonder offers to mentor the masses, as opposed to interacting with someone online or in real life and offering a bit of help...

Hurry and PM me quick because I can only help so many people at once, and it is first come, first served... sure reeks of exploit...

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Well there is one person on this site who has been known to try and pry away other traders "working strategies" while bashing TA at every turn...

I couldn't begin to imagine whom you are referring to, of course, but I do note that marketsurfer is unusually supportive and defensive of the OP's enterprise.

 

[marketsurfer]

I will do better, and I will post a screenshot of the money maker, which I know not one person will get, and the reason why is simple, in that I have worked it out myself, and I know exactly what to do, and what not to do.

If you want to be a textbook trader, that is your choice, but do not think that others need to think and act like you, for some us, are able to use the grey matter between our ears, and know when, and how, to act, so that we do not end up like most fools do!

Surf report me arse

Just in case I have intentionally left out 2 key features, as do not want the lurchers picking up any real tricks

J_S

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Hey Stealth Vendor-- why not pay for the marketing? Or are u broke?

 

[Mysteron]

Hey Stealth Vendor-- why not pay for the marketing? Or are u broke?

You are being malicious. There is no marketing taking place. Having been in a private thread setup by J_S, there was no request by J_S for a fee. The purpose of communicating within a private thread is to exclude undesirable people like yourself.

 

[marketsurfer]

You are being malicious. There is no marketing taking place. Having been in a private thread setup by J_S, there was no request by J_S for a fee. The purpose of communicating within a private thread is to exclude undesirable people like yourself.

The person is clearly a multi alias stealth vendor looking to "teach" --- they never ask for $ upfront, but the request will come eventually after you are 100% sold. surf