Looking for a successful trader

Quote from Arthur Deco:

Then, you can ponder the fact that every day, almost every issue goes up or goes down in the morning. Then it bottoms out in the late morning or early afternoon, maybe reversing.

Damn it, Arthur, you promised not to reveal my trading "edge"!
 
While we await an intelligent answer, let me offer this. I tend to enter and exit when few other people are trading. If I traded as few as 20 contracts I would be a blip on T&S at those times. And low volume is the best time to trade. And don't imagine for a second that if you attract attention with big consistent profits you won't be piggybacked, or worse, frustrated. Look at what typically happens after big prints in the "right" direction.
 
Quote from sappjason:

Here's my situation. I am a profitable trader. I've been at this for more than 10 years, but have only been consistently profitable since 2008. I'm also a professional software engineer and as such, I managed to fully automate my entire strategy. I'm currently trading with about $230K and in 2008, made 52% and in 2009 made 63% return. My current system trades an average of 13 trades per day and is in cash every single night. It trades exclusively US equities. It's not the end-all to end-alls, but it works and I'm pretty darned proud of my accomplishment.

With that said, I've been looking for another profitable methodology now for about 1 year, but so far no luck. I would like to automate as many profitable strategies as possible, to ultimately smooth out my equity curve and help me to do this stuff on a full-time basis (more quickly). I've been reading, back-testing ideas and just plain-old hunting high and low.

What I'm trying to find out is if there is anybody out there (that is already a profitable trader) who is not afraid to share their methodology with me (to teach me how to trade another method profitably)? What would you get in return? Well, I'm open... Perhaps I can pay (say 20%) of my profits for the first year using their methodology (say on a $100K account). Perhaps I can give my code to said person, once the strategy has been fully automated. You can throw other ideas at me if you are interested.....

Just for your information, I've attached a chart of my real-money trading since I started to become consistently profitable (back in the beginning of 2008).

If you are truly interested in this proposal, I'm willing to provide brokerage statements to back up my above claims (with individual trades removed). Please feel free to PM me if you want to chat.

Jason

Just for clarification: You started with $0 on 4/2008 and in 3/2010 you have ~$131K! Right?

From $0 to $131K?
 
NoDoji, so sorry. I thought everybody knew. I mean, all you have to do is look at any chart at the end of the day. Any fool can see. Perfectably oblivious.
 
No. I had about $30K in the beginning of 2008. As my confidence grew, I added money up through the beginning of 2009. My initial stake has now grown from $30K to $133K.

Jason

Quote from sulemanf:

Just for clarification: You started with $0 on 4/2008 and in 3/2010 you have ~$131K! Right?

From $0 to $131K?
 
Quote from sappjason:

No. I had about $30K in the beginning of 2008. As my confidence grew, I added money up through the beginning of 2009. My initial stake has now grown from $30K to $133K.

Jason

Jason you being a noob when it comes to real trading wouldn't know this so I will tell you.

Those out there with real edge to their name, read you like a very simple book.

Your results are either completely false or heavily embellished

You are looking for my edge because you don't have yours, and you tried everything you can think of and don't know where to turn to now.

Your payout for my edge is BEYOND ridiculous.

People who will PM you are just like you without a real edge, endless spinning in circle.

Do you really believe someone smart enough to develop robust edge is going to fall for your thread. Get a grip jason.
 
Really, McCoy? You are just being paranoid! I am sure that Jason is totally sincere. and BTW, everybody who survives as a trader knows that the term "robust edge" is an oxymoron. Every edge is marginal. And often nonsensical or of dubious market logic. Everything conceivable works about half the time. It has to. If it worked more often, you would take all the money and shut down the markets. If it worked less often, you could fade it with similar results. So profitable traders are tiny mammals dashing daintily between the feet of clumsily dancing dinosaurs.
 
Quote from sappjason:


Are there edges out there that one can exploit where it does not eat into another persons profit? In other words, if you shared your edge with me, would that mean that I would be entering/exiting your current vehicles at the exact same time and as such, eat away at what you are taking home?

Yes and no.

There are strategies out there that do present a small, yet scalable edge while being employed by many hedge funds. Convert arb, S&P/Dow/Russell additions & subtractions, pair trading, correlation/relative value versus a tradable index futures or options. These are not secrets and they can be profitable but these are tired edges. If you like to code, I suggest researching those, but don't expect a holy grail

Frankly, these are not that different from yours, as a breakout system is nothing new or special. Chances are that patterns will change and your system will stop working soon. It has to be constantly modified & updated.

The real lucrative edges require out of the box thinking and often involve instruments that are not stocks or widely traded futures. But that is a different discussion.
 
Quote from Real McCoy:


Do you really believe someone smart enough to develop robust edge is going to fall for your thread. Get a grip jason.

You know I've heard this too "No REAL trader is going to help you let alone ACKNOWLEDGE your results"... Then why these forums??? If no one is willing to share a working system.
I know...I know...that's a newbie mistake...So be it!

I too looked at the graph and it seems "optimistic", but he's willing to share his records.

Right Jason?!
 
Quote from Arthur Deco:


So profitable traders are tiny mammals dashing daintily between the feet of clumsily dancing dinosaurs.

I like this: "So profitable traders are tiny mammals dashing daintily between the feet of clumsily dancing dinosaurs."

Mind if I use it? :D
 
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