Looking for a prop firm for U.S. equities

I doubt any reasonably managed broker would offer 20:1 overnight leverage or if there were the dec crash would have bankrupted them. If you have enough money ($100+), a portfolio margin account should be enough
 
I doubt any reasonably managed broker would offer 20:1 overnight leverage or if there were the dec crash would have bankrupted them. If you have enough money ($100+), a portfolio margin account should be enough
Ok. some body tell me what a prop trading firm actually does? Why they take a share of profit and charge commission? People are mixing Brokerage +Hedge fund+prop firm all together. All of these have different business model. They are not the same.
 
Traditional Prop - They use their money, hire you and give you an allaoction. They provide a salary and profit split. They only make money when you make money. They are like a hedge fund but not looking for capital. Your pay is in the form of a 1099 or W2.

US based Joint Back office (JBO) Prop firm-They must have only $1mm of their own Capital. They make a deal with a clearing firm to join their back offices to provide leverage to traders. Each trader deposits first loss money with a lock up period of 1 year. The firm generally takes a split of profits from 1% to 20%. They only do that because the Regulators make them. They generate their revenues from marking up commissions, interset, desks fees, and charging for training. Your pay is in the form of a K1. Your funds are not protected by SIPC.

Both are Broker dealers and in the US that means you are a registered person and will be required to take the Series 57.
 
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Traditional Prop - They use their money, hire you and give you an allaoction. They provide a salary and profit split. They only make money when you make money. They are like a hedge fund but not looking for capital. Your pay is in the form of a 1099 or W2.

US based Joint Back office (JBO) Prop firm-They must have only $1mm of their own Capital. They make a deal with a clearing firm to join their back offices to provide leverage to traders. Each trader deposits first loss money with a lock up period of 1 year. The firm generally takes a split of profits from 1% to 20%. They only do that because the Regulators make them. They generate their revenues from marking up commissions, interset, desks fees, and charging for training. Your pay is in the form of a K1. You funds are not protected by SIPC.

Both are Broker dealers and in the US that means you are a registered person and will be required to take the Series 57.
Now I understand why there are prop firms with such different profit splits, and commission rates.
 
Ok. some body tell me what a prop trading firm actually does? Why they take a share of profit and charge commission? People are mixing Brokerage +Hedge fund+prop firm all together. All of these have different business model. They are not the same.

Did you find any providers of LightSpeed or Takion as per your requirements yet?
 
I have traded with many Prop firms in past 9 years and all of them are providing minimum 20:1 leverage for day and 10:1 for overnight (not exact numbers).Overnight may be not for everyone but once you show some experience almost everyone allowed. At present takion software provider outside U.S. ,Global trading plus(https://www.globaltradingplus.com) does the same. I trade with them now.In past when i traded on lightspeed Tower hill did the same. So may be this is the thing only prop traders know.
Where is this firm located? the website seems to be down!
 
In my experience, the 20:1 is possible but I'm not aware of any Prop firm that would allow overnight leverage at all. At best, 2X. Unless you are long/short, the risk is too high. And, it is a transaction business, so they get no benefit from you doing anything except day trading.


This is incorrect. Prop firms will and do give you overnight leverage. Generally, you need to meet account minimums for overnight bp, but 6:1 is pretty normal from people I've talked to. Unfortunately for OP, I don't know of anyone taking non-us citizens.
 
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