Looking for a new computer, stumbled across this one

Quote from ofthomas:

I feel sorry for you, all the back and forth with people who are offering their opinions without bothering to understand your drivers... so here is what I will tell you...

figure out what apps you will use first, then how many of them you want to run at the same time... and how you will use those applications... that will tell you how many threads you need for processing, and it will also tell you how much memory you need...

or you can go with the basic thing...

4 Threads and 1GB per thread... that is the simplest way... all else on this whole thread is just noise...

then you need to think about your trading timeframe, what level of reliability do you need... if you are intraday, and can not afford downtime, then go for best quality possible... if you are swing, then who cares... go for best value... also, determine if you are best suited with one or two computers... one for backtesting where you can have lots of threads and another one for actual trading...

stay away from custom stuff and custom vendors unless they are "big" and have been around... if things crap out in 3 years or a part fails or whatever, you want them to be around...

lastly, your time is better spent on trading than putting a computer together... again, what is your time worth... all the "research" and "integration" work will take time, do you want to waste that much time? I rather would spend that time playing with my kids or out on the golf course or whatever suits your fancy...

oh, and if you are intraday, please stay away from Wi-Fi... you have enough latency as it is, why add more by choice... always pick network cable over wifi... always pick wired over wireless (now I mean keyboards and mouse)...

anyhow, any of the systems below will more than meet your requirements.. but again, you should determine your needs, write a pro/cons list and go from there..

If I was you I would get this one... the video card alone is $400..

HP z400 W7P-64 X W3680 6X 3.33GHz 500GB SATA 6GB DDR3 1333 DVDRW Quadro NVS 450 Rmkt WS $765

and you will get 12 threads, 6GB of RAM... you can add a 256GB SSD (Samsung) for under $200 and add another 6GB for like $50...

overall systems, and see the spreadsheet for them below...

HP 8300 W7P-64 i5 3570K 3.4GHz 500GB 4GB(2x2GB) DDR3 1600 DVDRW Rmkt SFF PC $629
HP 8300 W7P-64 i7 3770 3.4GHz 500GB SATA 4GB(1x4GB) DDR3 1600 DVDRW Parallel Rmkt CMT PC $679
HP z220 W7P-64 i5 3570 3.4GHz 1TB SATA 4GB DVD NVIDIA NVS 310 Rmkt CMT WS $679
HP z400 W7P-64 X W3680 6X 3.33GHz 500GB SATA 6GB DDR3 1333 DVDRW Quadro NVS 450 Rmkt WS $765
HP z420 W7P-64 X E5-1620 QC 3.6GHz 500GB SATA 6GB DVD Graphics-Less Rmkt WS $783
HP 8300 W7P-64 i7 3770 3.4GHz 2-1TB SATA 4GB DVD AMD HD 7450 Rmkt CMT PC $849
HP 8300 W7P-64 i5 3470 3.2GHz 256GB SSD 8GB DVDRW Intel HD Rmkt SFF PC $1,029
HP z420 W7P-64 X E5-1650 6X 3.2GHz 1TB SATA 2GB No-Optical Quadro 600 Rmkt WS $1,103
HP z420 W7P-64 X E5-1650 6X 3.2GHz 500GB ATA 8GB(4x2GB) DDR3 1600 ECC DVDRW Graphics-Less Rmkt WS $1,119
HP z420 W7P-64 X E5-1650 6X 3.2GHz 1TB SATA 4GB No-Optical Quadro 600 Rmkt WS $1,119
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excuse me.. "noise" i spent the time to build a well thought out system as an example of what you could do with 1000 bucks rather then his bunk ebay rip off.. and i've ran this system for some time.. and its great! noise my ass...
 
Quote from cdcaveman:

are you spamming the stuff your trying to sell on ebay here?????????????????? really...
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He has the cheapest stuff I can find on there. I don't know if it's good or not. For all I know the guy could be a complete scammer.
 
Quote from kmgilroy89:

He has the cheapest stuff I can find on there.
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my suggestion is build a system off newegg.. stay with intel chip and ssd drive , i like asus boards.. my budy has alot of luck with gigabytes stuff..
 
Quote from cdcaveman:

excuse me.. "noise" i spent the time to build a well thought out system as an example of what you could do with 1000 bucks rather then his bunk ebay rip off.. and i've ran this system for some time.. and its great! noise my ass...
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What are you using as a graphics card? I don't see it listed.
 
Quote from ofthomas:

I feel sorry for you, all the back and forth with people who are offering their opinions without bothering to understand your drivers... so here is what I will tell you...

figure out what apps you will use first, then how many of them you want to run at the same time... and how you will use those applications... that will tell you how many threads you need for processing, and it will also tell you how much memory you need...

or you can go with the basic thing...

4 Threads and 1GB per thread... that is the simplest way... all else on this whole thread is just noise...

then you need to think about your trading timeframe, what level of reliability do you need... if you are intraday, and can not afford downtime, then go for best quality possible... if you are swing, then who cares... go for best value... also, determine if you are best suited with one or two computers... one for backtesting where you can have lots of threads and another one for actual trading...

stay away from custom stuff and custom vendors unless they are "big" and have been around... if things crap out in 3 years or a part fails or whatever, you want them to be around...

lastly, your time is better spent on trading than putting a computer together... again, what is your time worth... all the "research" and "integration" work will take time, do you want to waste that much time? I rather would spend that time playing with my kids or out on the golf course or whatever suits your fancy...

oh, and if you are intraday, please stay away from Wi-Fi... you have enough latency as it is, why add more by choice... always pick network cable over wifi... always pick wired over wireless (now I mean keyboards and mouse)...

anyhow, any of the systems below will more than meet your requirements.. but again, you should determine your needs, write a pro/cons list and go from there..

If I was you I would get this one... the video card alone is $400..

HP z400 W7P-64 X W3680 6X 3.33GHz 500GB SATA 6GB DDR3 1333 DVDRW Quadro NVS 450 Rmkt WS $765

and you will get 12 threads, 6GB of RAM... you can add a 256GB SSD (Samsung) for under $200 and add another 6GB for like $50...

overall systems, and see the spreadsheet for them below...

HP 8300 W7P-64 i5 3570K 3.4GHz 500GB 4GB(2x2GB) DDR3 1600 DVDRW Rmkt SFF PC $629
HP 8300 W7P-64 i7 3770 3.4GHz 500GB SATA 4GB(1x4GB) DDR3 1600 DVDRW Parallel Rmkt CMT PC $679
HP z220 W7P-64 i5 3570 3.4GHz 1TB SATA 4GB DVD NVIDIA NVS 310 Rmkt CMT WS $679
HP z400 W7P-64 X W3680 6X 3.33GHz 500GB SATA 6GB DDR3 1333 DVDRW Quadro NVS 450 Rmkt WS $765
HP z420 W7P-64 X E5-1620 QC 3.6GHz 500GB SATA 6GB DVD Graphics-Less Rmkt WS $783
HP 8300 W7P-64 i7 3770 3.4GHz 2-1TB SATA 4GB DVD AMD HD 7450 Rmkt CMT PC $849
HP 8300 W7P-64 i5 3470 3.2GHz 256GB SSD 8GB DVDRW Intel HD Rmkt SFF PC $1,029
HP z420 W7P-64 X E5-1650 6X 3.2GHz 1TB SATA 2GB No-Optical Quadro 600 Rmkt WS $1,103
HP z420 W7P-64 X E5-1650 6X 3.2GHz 500GB ATA 8GB(4x2GB) DDR3 1600 ECC DVDRW Graphics-Less Rmkt WS $1,119
HP z420 W7P-64 X E5-1650 6X 3.2GHz 1TB SATA 4GB No-Optical Quadro 600 Rmkt WS $1,119
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I can't open your link. I don't know where you are getting these listings from.
 
Quote from kmgilroy89:

What are you using as a graphics card? I don't see it listed.
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good point :) but that board has one on board.. i bought a really nice one.. the sky is the limit on those..
 
Quote from cdcaveman:

excuse me.. "noise" i spent the time to build a well thought out system as an example of what you could do with 1000 bucks rather then his bunk ebay rip off.. and i've ran this system for some time.. and its great! noise my ass...
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yes, noise... because it is all pointless unless you(all) have clarity about what he needs, which he doesnt even seem to know himself... not everyone wants to build a computer, specially those that have no clue how to put one together (which would include him)... so yes... noise... because noise is that which provides no clear direction when the person asking for direction has no idea of what he needs given his lack of understanding his own requirements.

and so we are clear, I am not saying that your effort was pointless... I also spent time posting.. and I consider my second half of the email where I provided him with list of systems noise as well...
 
Quote from kmgilroy89:

I can't open your link. I don't know where you are getting these listings from.
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is not a link, is a rar file (winrar) and it contains a spreadsheet... but the same info can be had here:

http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/hpremarketing/daily.asp?dimid=1021387852&dicid=null

it is the HP business outlet... you dont need new IMO... but that is just my opinion, all HPBO comes with 1 year warranty...

here is another really decent choice..

HP z220 W7P-64 X E3-1225 V2 3.2GHz 2-300GB SATA + 1TB SATA 16GB DVD NVIDIA NVS 310 Rmkt CMT WS $599
 
Quote from kmgilroy89:

I can't open your link. I don't know where you are getting these listings from.
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yes, sky is the limit given a GPU can cost even more than the PC itself... but there is no chance you will use that while trading... so focus instead on the number of monitors you want to support and the resolution for those monitors and the refresh rate.... unless you are gaming and need 3D rendering...
 
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