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You say that the engines scalps the long side, what if it is wrong and the market turns fast? If you go long is today environment you buy hedges quite expensive and have significant losses. Also do these hedges go overnight?
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Insightful questions
dorietrading.
You have actually answered in part yourself in the other thread where you said: "
And roll on time! Risk control is everything!"
If you look at the various charts I have posted, you will see that most of the time, the buy orders result in additional profit, because obviously (when they can close) they raise the average price of the sell orders.
The phenomenon you refer to is with those that I call the "
stranded" buy players (=active buy orders, in loss, waiting for a chance of profitable close). The scalping/hedging game is
balanced in such a way that in most cases the buy orders, even if stranded, cannot completely obliterate, statistically speaking, the profit generated by the sell orders [the game never really flips sides, only hedges enough to discharge margins and add profit, but never to such an extent to completely invert position].
If anyway the option reaches the expiry with enough "stranded" buy orders (open buy "players") to reduce significantly or obliterate the current profit (there is any way a limit, that the user can tune, to the number of buy orders that can remain unfilled), we have the "information transfer" mechanism, which is, in essence, a rollover with the
transfer of all trading info.
This way through a continuous rollover, with the complete trading info, (that I call "
information transfer"), all or most of the "stranded" open buy orders (buy "players") will always find a chance to close or at least be reduced to a number which does not hurt the much the PNL.
This is essentially the "stop recovery" mechanism I have mentioned in various posts.
As a practical example, look for instance at the following layer, that is currently in
drawdown:
ES FOP 20220531 2600 P GLOBEX 50 E-mini S&P 500 [EWK2 P2600, 530344344, mult: 50]
here you can notice 2 blue dots with white borders. Those signify "stranded" buy players. This means those orders are contributing
negatively to the PNL because they are buy orders with no corresponding close. First of all the algo puts a limit to the presence of those and secondly, they could close if the price spikes up again before expiry. Also, the bot is showing you in real-time the break-even level as the
red horizontal line.
When that line is
high enough you already know in advance that layer is going to give you a profit, even IF those stranded buys cannot be closed before expiry on the current layer.
If the line is out of view because it is negative, that means that you will need to "transfer" this layer to another option layer in the options matrix to give them a chance to close. And the will eventually. This way we never end up with a negative layer. We stop trading them only if in profit.
So you actually said that:
roll on!
Example of successful scalping/hedging (note that there is a constraint to the max position, a user parameter. I keep it to 4 "packets", where 1 packet is usually defined as 10 options, also a user param):
ES FOP 20220331 3600 P GLOBEX 50 E-mini S&P 500 [EWH2 P3600, 518635917, mult: 50]
Note here too, the 2 stranded buy players.
The bot - since keeps all the
trading info in memory through the rollovers - takes them into account anyway
rebalancing with sell orders the way down. Therefore, the buy orders essentially get a chance to hurt the PNL only if the price is too low for the bot to rebalance their effect the way down. And, in that case, we roll on!
(A "loss" exists really only when the corresponding trading info is lost!

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> Also do these hedges go overnight
And yes, the bot trades continuously h24 reacting to every single tick. That is why FOPs work way better than STK options.