London post-brexit as a financial center

[schweiz]

My bet is on leaving the EU on the 29th March.

If you want to be outside the EU on the 29th March, the only solution will probably be to leave the UK before 29th of March .
If not you will be in the "EU prison". Maybe for a short time but potentially it can be a lifetime sentence too...

And if you want to move and to continue left hand driving your choices will be limited.
https://www.worldstandards.eu/cars/list-of-left-driving-countries/

 

[Visaria]

So again, what is the magic in implementing the first referendum before doing a second? What makes that inherently "democratic" (of the type of "democracy you have there", which yes, is different than the kind of democracy we have here in the U.S. which also isn't perfect) while voting for it before implementing it, no matter what the current feeling about it, is anti-democratic? Are you seriously saying that if, for example, 90% of the folks in the UK today wanted to cancel Brexit the "democratic" thing to do is to go forward with Brexit? (That is absolutely what you're saying, by the way).

Well, in 2016, from the US media, i inferred that everyone hates Mr Trump when he was elected. Like 99%! So evidently another election should have been called straightaway before he was inaugurated as POTUS.

Since that didn't happen, I assume your democracy isn't totally dissimilar to ours in that the result of a vote is implemented.

 

[Visaria]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire

By 1913, the British Empire held sway over 412 million people, 23% of the world population at the time, and by 1920, it covered 35,500,000 km2 (13,700,000 sq mi), 24% of the Earth's total land area.

In merely 1 century time this "empire" was reduced:

• 35,500,000 km2 became 242,495 km2, so 99% of the "empire" got lost.
• sway over 412 million people became 66 million, so 84% of the "empire" got lost. In 1913 they had 23% of the world population, today they have less then 1%, so the real loss is even bigger.

The "empire" became a dwarf, and the British still think they rule the world. We will see what will be left over from the UK. But past evolution does not indicate any good for the future.
This Brexit became a never ending soap.
The UK democracy is not working as the politicians can even not execute the referendum. A lot of things are strange in the UK, British democracy seems strange too.

All empires fall. Roman, Greek, British...perhaps the EU empire is next?

 

[Sig]

Well, in 2016, from the US media, i inferred that everyone hates Mr Trump when he was elected. Like 99%! So evidently another election should have been called straightaway before he was inaugurated as POTUS.

Since that didn't happen, I assume your democracy isn't totally dissimilar to ours in that the result of a vote is implemented.

Hey, I'm not against that! Seriously though, the Presidential term is fixed in the constitution. Like I said, U.S. democracy isn't perfect and that part is one part I think could be better, but it is definitely "written somewhere" that Presidential Elections are held every 4 years and everyone knows that going in. Where is it written again, in the UK, that referendums must be implemented before being voted on again? If it had been a no vote, you would have said what, no voting on it ever again because the "no" couldn't be implemented? Or you can vote again immediately, because that supports what you want? For your logic to hold it's gotta at least be internally consistent, this isn't. How did you vote on Brexit, by the way?

 

[Sig]

All empires fall. Roman, Greek, British...perhaps the EU empire is next?

Newsflash, Once Great, Britain's empire fell some time ago!

 

[schweiz]

All empires fall. Roman, Greek, British...perhaps the EU empire is next?

It is funny how you compare facts with wishfull thinking. The British way of thinking.
The collapse of the British Empire is a fact.
The collapse of the EU is your wishfull thinking (which you take already as your reality).

You always argue against a negative fact with a hypothetical argument.

An example from a few days ago:
You wrote: Deutsche bank has 30.000 jobs at risk.
Your interpretation like posted by you: UK lost 5.000 jobs but Germany lost 30.000 jobs.

From the 30.000 German jobs at risk (at risk means at risk, not lost) not a single one is lost till now. Again your wishfull thinking.

 

[schweiz]

Well, in 2016, from the US media, i inferred that everyone hates Mr Trump when he was elected. Like 99%!

People decide in elections or referenda what should happen, not the media. It is not because the media is writing that 99% is against Trump, which is by the way a pure lie, that there should be new elections. There are laws to follow. The (small) majority wanted Trump and that's what happened.

This 99% only exist in your fantasy.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

In the UK a referendum is not legally binding. Elections are.

 

[Visaria]

Hey, I'm not against that! Seriously though, the Presidential term is fixed in the constitution. Like I said, U.S. democracy isn't perfect and that part is one part I think could be better, but it is definitely "written somewhere" that Presidential Elections are held every 4 years and everyone knows that going in. Where is it written again, in the UK, that referendums must be implemented before being voted on again? If it had been a no vote, you would have said what, no voting on it ever again because the "no" couldn't be implemented? For your logic to hold it's gotta at least be internally consistent, this isn't. How did you vote on Brexit, by the way?

When the referendum was initiated, the UK govt sent a leaflet to every household in the UK, which urged everyone to vote against leaving with warnings of doom and gloom if we voted to leave (some lies there schweiz since we had a boom after the vote but who cares about that...). In addition, it was very clearly stated that whatever the result, it would be implemented. So that's the first thing.

Second, we had a general election in 2017 where 85% of the electorate voted for parties who promised to uphold the result of the referendum.

Third, MPs debated and voted for Article 50 (the legal clause which says exit) in March 2017 and passed legislation to say we would leave in exactly 2 years time i.e 29th March 2019.

So the vote to leave has through democracy and process been enshrined in law.

 

[Visaria]

If it had been a no vote, you would have said what, no voting on it ever again because the "no" couldn't be implemented?

No, i would have said the matter is settled for the time being...let's have another vote in 5 years time. Which is exactly what I'm saying now. Implement this decision and there can be another referendum in a few years time to see if we want to rejoin the EU again.

 

[Visaria]

British

I never said otherwise. The British Empire fell last century. The EU empire is set to collapse in this century