Quote from jem:
exactly... there was a pbs special on this. I think frontline.
it showed the lobbyists telling the dems how the bill was going to work. Then they told obama how it was going to work.
and the dems and obama sold out without getting single payer and without getting a single republican vote.
It was the worst sellout of democrat and liberal ideal I ever saw.
they went from liberal to totalitarian plus cronies in one giant step.
SSDD really....