lol: Donald Trump Beating Entire GOP Field By 9 Points
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States don't have the right to deport, that is a federal jurisdiction.
States can work the INS, but they can't act independently of the INS where immigration, legal or not, is an issue.
Just like local police can deal with local and perhaps state issues, but federal issues give the FBI jurisdictional control.
There is a chain of command and pecking order based on which rule of law is higher.
If the issues are a federal issue, like illegal immigration, the state is subordinate to the Feds...
What binds the states together is an understanding that the states have to submit to a higher authority in certain situations, i.e. Federal issues.
States can work the INS, but they can't act independently of the INS where immigration, legal or not, is an issue.
Just like local police can deal with local and perhaps state issues, but federal issues give the FBI jurisdictional control.
There is a chain of command and pecking order based on which rule of law is higher.
If the issues are a federal issue, like illegal immigration, the state is subordinate to the Feds...
What binds the states together is an understanding that the states have to submit to a higher authority in certain situations, i.e. Federal issues.
A crime occurred in New York? According to whom?
This is the insanity of thinking a state can pass a law in which it is murder in Alabama, but not murder in New York.
Your analogy of the USA to Iceland is flawed, because the USA and Iceland are both sovereign nations.
Alabama and New York are not sovereign nations, they are states bound by membership and allegiance to a higher authority than the individual states themselves.
This is the insanity of thinking a state can pass a law in which it is murder in Alabama, but not murder in New York.
Your analogy of the USA to Iceland is flawed, because the USA and Iceland are both sovereign nations.
Alabama and New York are not sovereign nations, they are states bound by membership and allegiance to a higher authority than the individual states themselves.
Yes, but states are not divine or permanent institutions. History teaches us that.
The greater the quantity of laws passed at the federal level that a large % of the population thinks are unjust, the more the State will lose its legitimacy in the eyes of the many.
At some point masses of people begin to believe that the state is hostile to their lives and interests, pressure begins to build behind a damn, and then, when it is not expected, the damn breaks. It can be a slow crack and disintegration or a sudden burst.
This will become all the more acute as our population becomes more diverse and people find they have little, if any, interest in common.
+1 He has gained the respect of those who have watched him for 20 years. His bankers tried to run him out of business during the 1990 recession and he basically told them "kiss my ass". He recovered and prospered. What is his motive for running? Maybe he is fed up with the direction US is headed.
That's one possibility.
Countries go through upheavals in history. India used to include Pakistan and Bangladesh as all one India.
Vietnam used to be a south and a north Vietnam, not just one Vietnam.
We have south and north Korea now, that could change back to just Korea.
States could try to secede, or the majority of states could expel one state from membership in the United States.
Things change, always have.
All one has to do is look at maps of the world over the past several hundred years to see some of the changes.
Could the USA change and become this?
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Countries go through upheavals in history. India used to include Pakistan and Bangladesh as all one India.
Vietnam used to be a south and a north Vietnam, not just one Vietnam.
We have south and north Korea now, that could change back to just Korea.
States could try to secede, or the majority of states could expel one state from membership in the United States.
Things change, always have.
All one has to do is look at maps of the world over the past several hundred years to see some of the changes.
Could the USA change and become this?
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According to you the "crime" (abortion) occurs in New York, so Alabama could not and would not issue a warrant in relation to it.
Your example is flawed. States don't prosecute crime which happens in other states. If abortion is illegal in Alabama, a pregnant woman would need to go to a state where abortion is legal to have her pregnancy terminated legally. The state she came from wouldn't be able to prosecute "crimes" in other jurisdictions. Much like gambling or prostitution in Nevada. This could land you in prison in Alabama, yet it's allowed within regulations in Nevada. Does Alabama issue warrants for people who go to Vegas to gamble or Bama girls who become prostitutes in Nevada? No, of course not. Because Bama doesn't prosecute crimes which transpire in Nevada, and doesn't determine what is or is not a crime in Nevada. Same should be the case with abortion. You suffer from not having a basic understanding of the law or government.
Your example is flawed. States don't prosecute crime which happens in other states. If abortion is illegal in Alabama, a pregnant woman would need to go to a state where abortion is legal to have her pregnancy terminated legally. The state she came from wouldn't be able to prosecute "crimes" in other jurisdictions. Much like gambling or prostitution in Nevada. This could land you in prison in Alabama, yet it's allowed within regulations in Nevada. Does Alabama issue warrants for people who go to Vegas to gamble or Bama girls who become prostitutes in Nevada? No, of course not. Because Bama doesn't prosecute crimes which transpire in Nevada, and doesn't determine what is or is not a crime in Nevada. Same should be the case with abortion. You suffer from not having a basic understanding of the law or government.
Alabama outlaws abortion because they claim it is a capital crime of murder.
When a woman from Alabama goes to New York to get an abortion, the state of Alabama doesn't think it is murder?
No, they think she went to New York and murdered her unborn child.
When the woman returns to her home in Alabama, she will be arrested for murdering her child.
The laws in Alabama aren't going to state that abortion is only murder in Alabama, they are going to claim that a resident of the state of Alabama, are guilty of murder if they have an abortion...anywhere.
Nowhere is murder not recognized as a murder in other states. There may be different degrees of murder in different states, but no state who believes abortion is murder is going to believe that the abortion is not murder is a different state.
Murder is a capital offense.
"If the crime originated in one state but actually physically took place in another, OR - you stole something in one state and transported it into the other state, then you HAVE violated that state's law and can be prosecuted for THAT offense."
The state can easily make the argument, that the unborn child has residency in Alabama because the mother was a resident...and the murder of the child in New York is still the killing of a resident of Alabama, so Alabama would enforce their law upon the mother's return.
They could also try and prosecute the doctor performing the abortion, etc.
Bottom line, it would be madness and insanity to allow one state to say abortion is murder, and another state to say it was just a medical procedure.
That's why certain laws have to be determined by federal statutes, not state laws.
When a woman from Alabama goes to New York to get an abortion, the state of Alabama doesn't think it is murder?
No, they think she went to New York and murdered her unborn child.
When the woman returns to her home in Alabama, she will be arrested for murdering her child.
The laws in Alabama aren't going to state that abortion is only murder in Alabama, they are going to claim that a resident of the state of Alabama, are guilty of murder if they have an abortion...anywhere.
Nowhere is murder not recognized as a murder in other states. There may be different degrees of murder in different states, but no state who believes abortion is murder is going to believe that the abortion is not murder is a different state.
Murder is a capital offense.
"If the crime originated in one state but actually physically took place in another, OR - you stole something in one state and transported it into the other state, then you HAVE violated that state's law and can be prosecuted for THAT offense."
The state can easily make the argument, that the unborn child has residency in Alabama because the mother was a resident...and the murder of the child in New York is still the killing of a resident of Alabama, so Alabama would enforce their law upon the mother's return.
They could also try and prosecute the doctor performing the abortion, etc.
Bottom line, it would be madness and insanity to allow one state to say abortion is murder, and another state to say it was just a medical procedure.
That's why certain laws have to be determined by federal statutes, not state laws.