Living on a boat and avoiding taxes

Quote from nzbm:

Yep. New Zealand has no capital gains at the moment.:D

but if you are an active trader your profits could be classed as income and taxed accordingly.
No capital gains tax is extra cool.

But you have a fu*ked up time zone to trade the Dow.
:)
 
Quote from nononsense:

Who knows about US taxation of trading profits off US exchanges earned on US based accounts with US brokers by non-resident, non-US citizens if such persons 'live on a boat' or happen to be resident of a country WITHOUT tax treaty with the US?

Thank you.

If you live on the boat and you remain in international waters the entire time, then yes you may be able to legitamately avoid paying tax.

However, you can forget trading unless you plan to send your trades via radio. There is no broadband in the middle of the atlantic.

Runningbear
 
Is there a map of where international waters begin and end...sort of a territory overlay of the worlds oceans? It gets pretty rough out there, doesn't it?

If you live on the boat and you remain in international waters the entire time, then yes you may be able to legitamately avoid paying tax.
 
A life getting tossed around in a fudging boat is really ridiculous.

Simple answer: make valid tax avoidance arrangements for your affairs or go live in a tax haven.
:)
 
Quote from Cheese:

No capital gains tax is extra cool.

But you have a fu*ked up time zone to trade the Dow.
:)
You failed to read this:

Quote from nzbm:

Yep. New Zealand has no capital gains at the moment.:D

but if you are an active trader your profits could be classed as income and taxed accordingly.

PS: no problem if you're not making any profit trading.
:D
 
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but here are some ideas that may be useful:

1. Boats are damn espensive to maintain.

2. You need more deductions. Start financing debt - specifically real estate of any kind.

3. Interest is deductible and your equity will grow.

4. You don't have to declare rent if you chose to rent out the property and you now have a depreciating asset that pays for itself.

Structured correctly, the above should allow you to pay VERY little in taxes.
 
Isn't the best way to avoid taxes...the legal way?

with your suggestion...well anybody can avoid taxes by not declaring or declaring more expenses and just not with RE...I think this thread was more about discovering a legal loophole (s).

Michael B.

4. You don't have to declare rent if you chose to rent out the property and you now have a depreciating asset that pays for itself.
 
Quote from nononsense:

You failed to read this:
Yep. New Zealand has no capital gains at the moment.

but if you are an active trader your profits could be classed as income and taxed accordingly.
:D
Sweet.
Of course I read that. Didn't you see it only said 'could'?
And no capital gains tax.
:)
 
Quote from ElectricSavant:

Isn't the best way to avoid taxes...the legal way?

with your suggestion...well anybody can avoid taxes by not declaring or declaring more expenses and just not with RE...I think this thread was more about discovering a legal loophole (s).

Michael B.

4. You don't have to declare rent if you chose to rent out the property and you now have a depreciating asset that pays for itself.

You are right, but legal loopholes usually get shut down if enough people exploit them.

I was making a comparison between two types of depreciating assets: boats and homes. Not sure if boat loans qualify as tax deductible (I paid cash for mine).

From my experience, having a high tax deductible interest to income ratio along with depreciating assets are the best ways to avoid high tax brackets. This assumes however that you have high income.

I apologize if this is off topic.
 
Quote from Mike805:


4. You don't have to declare rent if you chose to rent out the property and you now have a depreciating asset that pays for itself.


How would you not have to declare rent, since it is income? I don't know too many people who pay their rent in cash.
 
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