Living large in South Florida

While its true that 1 in every 32 adult persons in the United States are either in prison, on probation or out on parole, if you make wise decisions then you will probably not ever be victim of a crime.

I have observed that some people can not stay out of trouble while others live life trouble-free. Common sense decisions will guide you to a trouble-free lifestyle...
 
Quote from eagle488:

You guys are a bunch of sissys. NYC has its share of really bad areas too. I want to see one of you guys get off the FDR above 125th street in Harlem during the night. Park your car and stand on the sidewalk for 30 minutes. Tell me how safe you feel. Better yet, try the Bronx or certain parts of Brooklyn or go to one of the housing projects and stand out front.

When people say "NYC", they never seem to mention the Bronx or Harlem. There are also many choice parts of New Jersey such as Newark, Trenton, Paterson and Camden.

As for drugs, they are everywhere in NYC. I once went to a party in an apartment hosted by a young district attorney that was a friend of my then girlfriend. I went into the bedroom to throw my coat down and low&behold there was a guy and two women. This guy was smoking pot and trying to hook up with the ladies.

The reason why you dont see drugs in NYC too much is because its well hidden and not seemingly out in the open. Everyone from the high income white collars to the lowest income blue collars are on some type of drugs, prescription or otherwise.

The questionable neighborhoods are everywhere. The "low-lifes" are a fact of life in every state.
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wow, did you paint a picture there!

you must be a new-move-in to NYC. Not even the residents of those depressed neighborhoods get off at those stops and park their cars and stand in front of them! You'd certainly draw a crowd.

For that matter, try doing the same in Howard Beach, Soho, Greenwich Village, Noho, Kips Bay, Silver Beach/Bronx, Pelham/Bronx, Flushing/Queens, NorthShore/LongIsland or for that matter just about anywhere in NYC and surrounding. That conduct is an invitation for vandalism.

You park, and walk away to wherever you're going. Got no where to be going (restaurant, visiting friends, etc.), then come there in the daytime, but certainly not at night.

Oh, all you're doing is trading being chased by neighboorhood thugs wearing bats and shouting curses for a welcome greeting committee, that's all!
 
Quote from dandxg:

Buddy, have you been to Wyoming? I have driven through there several times from Denver to Yellowstone. I have stopped in Cheyenne, Cody, Jackson, Dubois, etc. It's freakin desolate, and ugly until you get towards Yellowstone, by Jackson which costs the same as CO and even more. No state income tax, but gas cost 30% more because of gas tax. I kid you not, like out of the movies, I am driving back from Yellowstone last Sept and I see some varmit run out on the road to eat some road kill as I am driving up at 90 MPH, like from some Quentin Tarentino movie. There are village with official government signs that say population of 12, no BS!

No thanks, I understand why WY and SD have no taxes, I have no interest in living in either.
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can't stop laughing, with these comments,

this is one of the most enjoyable threads I've read in a long time.

hey, what's a Gonzo (from Sesame Street)

hey, what's a varmit?
 
Quote from ken__0:

i c one big advantage no state income tax?
the traffic isnt great in miami just as it aint great in nyc but just not as bad
cuban/ puerto rican women have nice asses theres always that too.
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wow, that must be a sight!

mussta been at the mall you see these, huh?

or at the beach?

dag-nab-it, where's my airline ticket?
 
Quote from ktmexc20:

Ha! I used buy my coke there (Spanish Harlem) back in the 80's. :D
120th and Amsterdam... if I remember correctly.
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Was it cherry coke?
 
Also, in 2005 all reported crimes in Miami was 29,455, and miami's population was 388,295. that means only 7.5% of miamians were victims of a crime in 2005. what's the big hysteria about crime in miami?
2005 victims of crime in five cities :
New York 2.6%
Philadelphia 5.5%
Miami 7.5%
Detroit 8.3%
Atlanta 8.9%
as you can see the chances of being a victim of crime is very low, even in Detroit and Atlanta. if you watch t.v. and listen to alarmists you can beleive that there is a mugger around every corner. but the numbers tell the real story.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

I grew up and spent most my life in an edgy area of Chicago (Edgewater/Rogers Park), lived a year on the UPE and now I'm living in Ft. Lauderdale. I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment. I will say SoFla is a bit safer than the old days but Florida's always been creepy. I've found however that many places, including Vegas, New Orleans (even pre-Katrina) and DC are far worse than Miami.

That being said, those who best prosper in Miami are those from the crime ridden, pre-gentrified NYC of the 70's or those from Latin America. Miami-Dade is a quarter parts of Sau Paulo, Havana, Long Island and the Deep South. I like it.

It's a place where you can get a Ruben, a Cuban sandwich or a hoagie at three different Deli's on the same block. It's a place where swimming pools with elaborate tropical foliage can be used year round. It's a place for boaters. It's a place where you can drive with the top down in the middle of January on the way to Gulfstream Park or to dinner in the dining room of some kick ass art deco hotel.

The important thing to note is: South Florida from Kendall to Jupiter is basically two worlds, east of Federal Hwy 1 and west. If you look at east in a vacuum, it's just another wealthy, crime free urban play land. No different than West L.A.
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nice summary,

this thread is a breathe of fresh tropic aire... really enjoying it....

really well balanced counter points to the initial arguements as well as the other comments....

all areas of the country are and have and will continue to change....guess that's just the normal progression of things....
 
Having lived in both the city and in the country I'll say personally I like living in the country but I'm close enough to NYC, Boston, and Montreal that I can do a nice day trip to any of them.


Crime and danger can be anywhere. Be aware of your surroundings.

Just last October I was mountain biking a few miles from my house and this wild animal came out of the woods and chased me down the trail. I dropped my food pack and I escaped with my life. But it was close . :)
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

I grew up and spent most my life in an edgy area of Chicago (Edgewater/Rogers Park), lived a year on the UPE and now I'm living in Ft. Lauderdale. I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment. I will say SoFla is a bit safer than the old days but Florida's always been creepy. I've found however that many places, including Vegas, New Orleans (even pre-Katrina) and DC are far worse than Miami.

That being said, those who best prosper in Miami are those from the crime ridden, pre-gentrified NYC of the 70's or those from Latin America. Miami-Dade is a quarter parts of Sau Paulo, Havana, Long Island and the Deep South. I like it.

It's a place where you can get a Ruben, a Cuban sandwich or a hoagie at three different Deli's on the same block. It's a place where swimming pools with elaborate tropical foliage can be used year round. It's a place for boaters. It's a place where you can drive with the top down in the middle of January on the way to Gulfstream Park or to dinner in the dining room of some kick ass art deco hotel.

The important thing to note is: South Florida from Kendall to Jupiter is basically two worlds, east of Federal Hwy 1 and west. If you look at east in a vacuum, it's just another wealthy, crime free urban play land. No different than West L.A.
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I just moved down here (not too far from Gulfstream Park) from Chicago 2 yrs ago..love it.....can't wait til Gulfstream opens.....gonna be there opening weekend.....
 
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