Living in an oppressive Republican State

Quote from Maverick74:

OK, I'm going to call you out on that. Tell me who on here is pretending to be a libertarian to suit their political agenda. I know very few libertarians on this site. The ones I do know never post. So let me hear these names.

And wtf is a neo-con fascist? That term is sort of contradictory no?
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Just do a search for I am a Libertarian and you'll get many pages of people claiming to be libertarian directly or implying that's how they vote.
 
You see no distinction between a house and a car? Wow! So you're OK with the State or Fed goon squads just kicking down your door if they "think" you're doing something wrong. That's not the country I want to live in and I have a tough time believing you'd want that as well.

Quote from Tsing Tao:

This post is fraught with contradictions. First, "First, police must possess probable cause before they may search a person or a person's property". I see no distinction between a house and, say, a car in that statement. I also see no exclusion of a house in the definition of Probable Cause you mentioned.

Additionally, in your "The requirement of probable cause for a Search and Seizure can be found in the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which states, the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be searched."

It says "no unreasonable searches". So the definition of unreasonable comes into play. Apart from that, I see no defense of your position.

If someone is committing a crime behind the closed door of their private residence and the police know it, with or without a warrant, they can act to stop the crime. It is only for the search of said property without probable cause that you need the warrant.
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Quote from CaptainObvious:

Just do a search for I am a Libertarian and you'll get many pages of people claiming to be libertarian directly or implying that's how they vote.
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So you can't name any. I figured as much. There are very very few libertarians on ET. There are many people on ET that like libertarian candidates. That's a different story. But actual libertarians, I think you get are getting over emotional again on us Captain. Getting worked up again over nothing. One word for ya....yoga.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

No, but I do respect the consistency of actual Libertarians. Most of the posers here are Libertarian as it suits their personal agenda. The rest are Neo-Con Fascists hell bent on grabbing all they can while the ship sinks. The ship that they torpedoed in the first place.
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Does this mean you still haven't found a job yet?
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

You see no distinction between a house and a car? Wow! So you're OK with the State or Fed goon squads just kicking down your door if they "think" you're doing something wrong. That's not the country I want to live in and I have a tough time believing you'd want that as well.
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I didn't say I was OK with it. What I said was it seems to be within the boundaries of Probable Cause and the Constitution, as you posted both of them.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

So you can't name any. I figured as much. There are very very few libertarians on ET. There are many people on ET that like libertarian candidates. That's a different story. But actual libertarians, I think you get are getting over emotional again on us Captain. Getting worked up again over nothing. One word for ya....yoga.
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I don't have to name any. They name themselves. Do some work and look through the posts.
Cops kicking down doors for no good reason is getting worked up over nothing. It never fails to amaze me the lengths you guys will go to in defending/minimizing oppression so long as it's got a republican stamp on it.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Does this mean you still haven't found a job yet?
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Dude, can you get off the cheap shots about the job? First, I never said I was unemployed. I said I lost my lofty position and now work for considerably less. Hope you feel better about yourself while kicking me.
 
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