Livermore, Tudor Jones and Cohen

Quote from DT3:

Because where you enter and where you exit in the only thing that matters. I dont know how you would think otherwise.

Haven't you heard of things like Opening Range Breakouts or how about just enter at Open and Exit at Close, why make things more complicated. :confused:
 
Quote from Standard Oil:

I'm a retired money manager that now plays golf and occasional mentors traders.

My style is based off a combination of the work of these three men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tudor_Jones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Lauriston_Livermore

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_A._Cohen


I'm going to post pics of stocks that I like each day that offer the best Intraday and Swing potential. I will take them Intraday first and if they perform as expected, I will hold them till further notice.

I will slowly reveal various aspects of each trade but will not reveal all of my analysis on each trade.



"There is no holy grail of trading, I have to work harder then everyone else ... that is my edge." Paul Tudor Jones




None of those people EVER disclosed their strategies AFAIK, how can your style be based on those then ?!

Can you give a link to the work of those men ?
 
Quote from puretruth:

Can you give a link to the work of those men ?
Tudor Jones gave away a pearl of wisdom, on the sheet of paper in the back:

paul-tudor-jones.jpg
 
Quote from hermit:

Haven't you heard of things like Opening Range Breakouts or how about just enter at Open and Exit at Close, why make things more complicated. :confused:

If OP wants to place trades at open and exit at close then that's great, but he doesn't state that.

He can come in and say he exited a trade while it was profitable before it turned against him, that's my only beef. I'm done arguing though, gl trading.
 
Quote from puretruth:

None of those people EVER disclosed their strategies AFAIK, how can your style be based on those then ?!

Can you give a link to the work of those men ?

The Wizards book have interviews by Cohen and Jones, they do touch lightly on their trading styles there.

Livermore wrote a book titled How to Trade Stocks, may not be exactly what he did but its a start.
 
Long Candidates:

JWN

Short Candidates:

ADCT
OHI
ROST
ARO
AXS
SQM
MOT


Looks like a small gap down open today and that can make things a little tricky to trade but for the record I will still record % off open as official numbers.

Have a safe day out there folks.
 
Quote from saliva:



But what do Livermore, Tudor Jones and Cohen exactly have in common other than the fact that they're exceptional traders?


Someone finally asked a good question!

These 3 men all had several things in common.


1. They all understood the importance of key price levels in relation to a stocks behavior or as some people like to call it price action.

This is the most important element !

I don't have time to list them all right now but you are on the right track.
 
Quote from Standard Oil:

Someone finally asked a good question!

EliteTrader tends to have a fair quantity of doubters, the clueless, attack dogs, attention seekers, desperate "gimme your logic" newbies/traders, some decent folks and a few knowledgeable traders along the way.

You certainly do not have to give away your edge. But the intro as retired money manager and name dropping these 3 traders may cause some to question your motives.

But the only thing that matters, is risk-adjusted results. :D
 
Quote from Standard Oil:



1. They all understood the importance of key price levels in relation to a stocks behavior or as some people like to call it price action.


I will expand on this a little more:

The word Price Action is thrown around way too much in my opinion. I believe this fools people into believing that all price action is important. The truth of the matter is that only a very small percentage of Price Action is important and the rest is just random noise.

A great trader needs to disseminate Price Action into these categories When, Where, Why and most importantly How.

It's a lot to understand and some people can do it much easier then others but it can be learned if you know what the heck to look for.

I wish it was as easy as coming in here and saying when A=B always do C but it really does take a lot of time and study to sort all the factors out and then find a way to exploit them.

The great traders all left clues but even if you sat beside Steven Cohen for a month you still would need to figure a lot of things out on your own.

I know that's not what a lot of you want to hear but it's the truth.
 
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