Quote from polpolik:
2cents, i think you want a very communistic (if that's a word) ET.
polpolik,
Communism has no monopoly on the use of blacklists. The best-known example of blacklisting, in U.S. history, is that one begun in the 1950s by Senator Joe McCarthy and the U.S. House of Representatives Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC). The purpose of this most important, of all U.S. blacklists, was to guard against an imagined communist conspiracy to seize control of the United States, at a time when U.S. politics were dominated by anti-Communist hysteria. Blacklists are useful to anyone seeking to control culture and public speech, whether communist, fascist, or other.
2cents more closely follows the early Nazi party fascists, rather than any communist movement. He, as did the early Nazis, espouses an exclusionary elitist ideology, addressed
partly to educated middle and upper class audiences in multi-ethnic industrial democracies, and he uses tactics of dividing people into categories (like "deviant" versus normal), bullying those perceived as weak, attacking individual reputations, denying historical facts, disrupting lawful public discussions, shifting blame onto the targets of his offenses, and misusing democratic procedures as a means to block participation by others (see his tactics gradually escalating throughout
http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62735&highlight=proposed+iranian+oil, and then continued in this thread requesting a blacklist, as well as in
http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72330).
Communist movements, by contrast, have begun by espousing egalitarian ideology (not elitist), addressed to poor, disenfranchised, under-educated peasants of the lowest class in undemocratic, ethnically homogeneous, agrarian societies, and by initiating (not disrupting) public discussions, where such discussions were non-existent and were forbidden since they challenged the ruling class (not the weak). Communist movements, after gaining power, then came to more closely resemble their fascist cousins.
I'm not aware of reliance, by 2cents, upon any communist ideology, nor have I seen him specifically state that he is a fascist, but at
http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1119486#post1119486, he did offer a link to a paper written by Lyndon LaRouche. LaRouche has long been a prominent leader of extreme left-wing and extreme right-wing fringe political groups, and has long been accused of such things as fascism, anti-Semitism, and denying that the Holocaust had ever occurred. This reminded me of how 2cents, throughout
http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62735&highlight=proposed+iranian+oil, denied the accepted historical fact, that excessive public debt was a cause connected to Germany's hyperinflation of 1923. I would be interested to know if 2cents also shares the Nazi view blaming that hyperinflation on a conspiracy by Jewish bankers and communists; or if 2cents also denies the Holocaust. I don't mean to suggest that 2cents would ever be a fascist leader. I think, if he is a fascist at all, he would be nothing more than a typical follower.
It should be noted that none of the various examples given by 2cents, of blacklists used on the internet, were true blacklists, like the one he proposed in this thread. One, for example, was a list of fraudulent sellers on ebay. Another was designed to exclude, from a forum, spam messages automatically generated by "bots" (internet computer programs). None are true blacklists, of the kind proposed in this thread, or used by McCarthy and HUAC, to limit participation by unpopular minorities. Perhaps websites organized by religious cults or extreme political groups would provide examples of the sort of internet blacklist proposed in this thread.