List of 5 Traders Worth Studying

Kovner is a fucking stud. not only does he trade everything, but most of his own money is in his funds. he has big returns EVERY year.
 
I think that Ken Wolff is worth to mention.

I dont know the exact track reckord, but hes book, lessons and websites turnes completely the viewpoint. And he is a pure trader.
 
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Wanted to see what everyone thinks of these traders. Your favorites? I found the piece quite interesting. Does anyone know the real reason why Rogers and Soros split?

http://detachedtrader.com/2006/02/detached-traders-list-of-5-traders.html


The Detached Trader's List of 5 Traders Worth Studying

"Example is the best precept" Aesop, Ancient Greek and Author


#1

Bruce Kovner, Hedge Fund Manager at Caxton Corporation
Estimated Net Worth: $2 Yards Plus
Primary Market: Currencies/FX
Summary: Harvard educated, former Taxi driver, used credit from mastercard to start trading
Personality Mention: Ultra secretive, mother committed suicide,Very creative and imaginative, politically conservative, Pro-Iraq war, from California
Best resource on Kovner: Market Wizards, pg.51; George Soros's Right-Wing Twin (New York Metro)


#2

Dan Zanger, Independent Trader, runs Chartpattern website
Estimated Net Worth: $20 Million
Primary market: Naz stocks
Summary: High school graduate, Former ski bum and swimming pool repairman, got addicted to markets from "Charting the Market" television show, took leveraged account up 29,233% in one year during tech bubble
Personality Mention: Little life outside of trading, trading extremist, trades from 88-foot yacht with international satellite reach, Raised in California, likes wines and art
Best resource on Zanger: ChartPattern.com


#3

Kenneth C. Griffin, Hedge Fund Manager of Citadel Investment Group
Estimated Net Worth: $2 Yards Plus
Primary Market: Bond Arbitrage
Summary: Started trading stock options as freshman from Harvard dorm room, bond arb as sophomore, , was running millionion in college, Citadel big on quantitative trading methods, $12 yards plus under management
Personality Mention: held second wedding in Garden of Versailles, taste for expensive Art, Doesn't allow anyone to talk to his former traders, tough guy to work for, Plays PS2 video games, wife runs separate hedge fund-Aragon Global, plays in soccer leagues, brainy
Best resource on Griffin: Bloomberg Piece on Griffin

#4

George Soros, Hedge Fund Manager (now passive) of Quantum Fund
Estimated New Worth: $11 Yards Plus
Primary Market: Currencies/FX
Summary: Holocaust survivor, studied at London School of Economics, traded with Jim Rogers #5 before big fallout, Soros and network of associates gunned down (slapped cable/sterling for yards (billions) in profits in a week. Soros offshore entity alone slapped a $10 yard cable short on. Laughed when Bank of England said they would defend cable by borrowing $15 yards.
Personality Mention: Insecure, divorced two times, emotionally detached, very ballsy-will go for the jugular if he sees something, morally and politically liberal, athiest, extremely dedicated to non-profit Open Society Institute, likes chess, checkers, and tennis.
Best resource on Soros: Soros: The Life and Times of A Messianic Billionaire by Michael T. Kaufman

#5

Jim Rogers, Independent Investor, Author of Hot Commodities
Estimated Net Worth: $150 Million
Primary Market: Commodities
Summary: From Alabama, Educated at Yale and Oxford, founded Quantum Fund with Soros before 'the split' where rumors were thrown around. Fired from Morgan Stanley after the Soros split. Trades Anything and Everything with Macro outlook. World Traveler. Author of Hot Commodities , Adventure Capitalist, and Investment Biker
Personality Mention: twice divorced/ currently married, misanthrope,emotionally detached, blunt, hard to work with, very contrarian, questions everything, Very original, well studied independent thinker, very frugal, rode motorcycle around the world and later drove modified Mercedes around world for Guinness World Records.
Best resource: Market Wizards pg.283, Jim Rogers personal website

Nice thread, thank you!

Ansare
 
IMO, Zanger did it right. Made enough money to really enjoy life, and now he's doing just that, enjoying life. From the blurb on him, my bet is he dabbles enough now to keep his interest in the market satisfied but not enough to risk his capital for living the good life.

Personally, I don't get it when someone rises to be worth billions and billions and still doesn't seem to do what they need to do to be happy. Money should be a tool, not its own goal.

Guess it's the Peter Principle at work for most people. Why stop when you're ahead, if you keep going eventually you'll find something that you're not good at and remains a challenge :p Human nature stinks sometimes.
 
Who am I to say making 20mil trading naz stocks in late 1990s isn't talented...but Zanger is not in the other guys' league. Period.

Next thing your going to tell me is Timothy Sykes should be in the top 5 or ten because <i>he</i> made some money in the late 1990s... AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH thats funny. Tim is a god damn joke! What a hack!

Anyways I digress...Good going for Zanger-I haven't made 20 mil quite yet, but he's no Soros, Rogers, or Kovner.

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I'm curious about Rogers net worth, it must be more than a $150 million.

He "retired" with $10 or $15 mil in 1980. Or, so the story goes. Since then, you can look through his books and interviews for a glimpse of his record. It isn't perfect, but you figure, even $8 mil at 12% for 28 years, that's $160 mil.

Commodities, FNM, C, the financials this year, he must have made a $100 mil. Who knows. It could have been hundreds of millions. Those were monster shorts.

He sold his house for $15 mil.

If this commodity bull market last another 5-10 years, he must become a billionaire eventually. Make the Forbes list.
 
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IMO, Zanger did it right. Made enough money to really enjoy life, and now he's doing just that, enjoying life. From the blurb on him, my bet is he dabbles enough now to keep his interest in the market satisfied but not enough to risk his capital for living the good life.

Personally, I don't get it when someone rises to be worth billions and billions and still doesn't seem to do what they need to do to be happy. Money should be a tool, not its own goal.

Guess it's the Peter Principle at work for most people. Why stop when you're ahead, if you keep going eventually you'll find something that you're not good at and remains a challenge :p Human nature stinks sometimes.

Maybe Dan Zanger just LOVE to trade - and write newsletters? So why should he stop?
 
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