I have not used it in baking though eat some foods where they use it as a sweetner. I do worry about sugar alcohols and the laxative effect so I try to keep it to a minimum. But no real experience with buying it/purity.
LIPITOR....avoid at all costs if you can..
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These numbers would imply that in a sample of a 1000 people, 11 people's lives were saved by being on LIPITOR as opposed to not being on it. 11 people saved per thousand...I don't know...you tell me if worth it.
edit: i mean coronary events rather than saved lives
Does not mean their lives were saved, it refers to coronary EVENT. Also, you think a problem affecting 3% of the population should have a pill that addresses something that is not even the main cause of CHD?
Also, why create a drug to address a problem that shows a link of 3% just to get it down to 1.9% at a cost of millions of dollars to the patient with SERIOUS side effects that have been shown that in the long run the survival rate of those on statins versus those who are not on statin was NEGLIGIBLE.
Also, numerous health officials already said they need to reconsider the link between cholesterol and coronary heart disease (no duh since the control group only had a 3% hit rate). Why are people suffering from CHD with low cholesterol? Why are people with high cholesterol but good high HDL and LDL made up of light fluffy particles at REDUCED risk of CHD?
Cholesterol is not responsible for coronary heart disease outright. Not only is this link being disproven but the actual study to support statins proves it as well. Only 3% of the control group with high risk factos has CHD and half of them actual died from CHD. None of them were monitored for changes to diet and lifestyle. If the aim is to lower cholesterol, know what is extremely effective with positive side effects? Diet and lifestyle changes. But you cannot patent that or make billions off of it. Also, simply lowering cholesterol does not avoid the real risk factors for CHD so except for limited high risk cases of previous CHD or events, the statin is NOT worth it.
Bottom line is it is not worth it at all as all the research points out. You think saving 11 people from a coronary event with no connection to cholesterol (i.e. random) is worth the hundreds of millions spent on statins and the fact that large groups of statin takers suffer side effects that really are bad and some lethal over time.
People need to not just swallow Big Pharma's bullshit and do research.
Also, why create a drug to address a problem that shows a link of 3% just to get it down to 1.9% at a cost of millions of dollars to the patient with SERIOUS side effects that have been shown that in the long run the survival rate of those on statins versus those who are not on statin was NEGLIGIBLE.
Also, numerous health officials already said they need to reconsider the link between cholesterol and coronary heart disease (no duh since the control group only had a 3% hit rate). Why are people suffering from CHD with low cholesterol? Why are people with high cholesterol but good high HDL and LDL made up of light fluffy particles at REDUCED risk of CHD?
Cholesterol is not responsible for coronary heart disease outright. Not only is this link being disproven but the actual study to support statins proves it as well. Only 3% of the control group with high risk factos has CHD and half of them actual died from CHD. None of them were monitored for changes to diet and lifestyle. If the aim is to lower cholesterol, know what is extremely effective with positive side effects? Diet and lifestyle changes. But you cannot patent that or make billions off of it. Also, simply lowering cholesterol does not avoid the real risk factors for CHD so except for limited high risk cases of previous CHD or events, the statin is NOT worth it.
Bottom line is it is not worth it at all as all the research points out. You think saving 11 people from a coronary event with no connection to cholesterol (i.e. random) is worth the hundreds of millions spent on statins and the fact that large groups of statin takers suffer side effects that really are bad and some lethal over time.
People need to not just swallow Big Pharma's bullshit and do research.
TL;DR?
Lipitor lack efficacy and involved ubiquinone in its metabolism. Ubiquinone is critical for cellmet/respiration (6:00 on Krebs) and efficient cardiovascular-functioning.
Don't take statins unless you've had vascular surgery/stents. If you must; then take at least 400mg of ubiquinone (CoQ10) daily.
Lipitor lack efficacy and involved ubiquinone in its metabolism. Ubiquinone is critical for cellmet/respiration (6:00 on Krebs) and efficient cardiovascular-functioning.
Don't take statins unless you've had vascular surgery/stents. If you must; then take at least 400mg of ubiquinone (CoQ10) daily.
And in my opinion, the group who had serious CHD or vascualr surgery/stents who might need statin therapy under close supervision is a much smaller group than the medical community prescribes statins for.
I have seen plenty of people tell me they are on Crestor and Lipitor and shove the worst foods down their gullet....wtf>
corrections.
My fathers doctor has him on a statin and a blood thinner. He didn't have vascular surgery/stents. To make it worse he also drinks alcohol. I have him on CoQ10, but his doctor never mentioned a thing about it. He is 72yo.
I prefer to see him drop the blood thinner also and up his aspirin dose instead, but I'm no doctor.
I prefer to see him drop the blood thinner also and up his aspirin dose instead, but I'm no doctor.
I am afraid of what aspirin does to your stomach but I have no research on why blood thinner is necessary along with statin unless they feel he has serious blockages and want to minimize any potential for clotting/blockages?
Curious.
Curious.
Yes, precisely right... he has a decently serious blockage.
He was taking 162mg, or 2 baby aspirins a day, and they told him to go to 1 while on the thinner. After reading about the side effects of both the medications, it's unsettling.
I think aspirin is ok at 162mg a day, a higher dose is when it gets bad for the stomach. I'd have to do more research on it.
