The US is ranked 4th because of inner city shootings.Still, homicide is one of the top 10 or 12 causes of death in the US. Not the case in most places. But perhaps you are right, it's like the unemployment rate: the average does not mean anything.
1.6 per 100,000 persons per year murdered here in my little privileged world of Bellevue, WA. My risk of dying in a car accident in the next year is several times that.
60.37 per 100,000 persons per year in Detroit-ouch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate
However, I note that US is listed as having fourth highest murder rate in world, right after Venezuela, and we are the only first-world country to make the list
Let's not get carried into your right wing rabbit hole here clubber. The vast majority of what you would call "socialist" countries are extremely safe. Venezuela isn't unsafe because it's socialist, it's unsafe because it's a totalitarian regime. Agree or disagree?The US is ranked 4th because of inner city shootings.
Something liberals refuse to talk about so they bring up ridiculous arguments like "Alaska has one of the highest homicide rates".
Ask anyone on earth if they would rather spend a week in Anchorage AK or a week in Camden NJ.
Most white liberals would wet their underoos just driving through Camden, Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, etc.
Let's not get carried into your right wing rabbit hole here clubber. The vast majority of what you would call "socialist" countries are extremely safe. Venezuela isn't unsafe because it's socialist, it's unsafe because it's a totalitarian regime. Agree or disagree?
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I think you agree with the underlying issue though, socialism does not cause a country to be unsafe?Disagree, and strongly.
Venezuela is unsafe most likely because it is a failed state in an already notoriously unsafe continent - ridden by disfunctioning democracies. I spend quite a bit of time in both democratic and totalitarian regimes and feel more safe in totalitarian countries.
Money helps, like in the UAE, Singapore or Tier 1 cities in China, but is not necessary, in poorer countries totalitarian regimes seem to help as well (one can do further research about public safety in place like Myanmar (at least for foreigners), Bielarus or other develloping or thirld world totalitarian countries and their more democratic neighbours, my experience plus the feedback i get from countries i haven't visited is quite opposite to your claim.
Democracies seem far from ideal to keep public order and safety
The US is ranked 4th because of inner city shootings.
Something liberals refuse to talk about so they bring up ridiculous arguments like "Alaska has one of the highest homicide rates".
Ask anyone on earth if they would rather spend a week in Anchorage AK or a week in Camden NJ.
Most white liberals would wet their underoos just driving through Camden, Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, etc.
It's actually an interesting thing that the clubbers of the world are doing, and he is really making it obvious here. They are told what these "white liberals" think by their right wing bubble, and what they're told is a ridiculous caricature of what liberals really think. Indeed if liberals really believed what the clubbers of the world think they believe I'd agree they were a bunch of idiots as well. Clubber probably truly believes that liberals all think Venezuela is a great place and that the insane stuff they're doing like forcing companies to sell their products for less than it costs to make them is a good idea.You are wrong about white liberals. We talk about this stuff all the time and wonder how to help people in these environments. I even belong to a club where we read books about it. I wish people on this forum would stop painting everyone and every "group" with a broad brush. It's just another form of prejudice. Issues like murder and dangerous neighborhoods concern everyone.
%%Things have gone from bad to worse to unbelievable...
This was written by a woman whose first language is Spanish.
It's a pretty dramatic portrayal of her daily life in Venezuela. We never hear this much about it.
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- Private ownership of guns was banned in 2012. Then things began to go downhill in a hurry.
- In 2013, preppers were relabeled “hoarders” and the act of stocking up became illegal.
- In 2014, the government instituted a fingerprint registry for those who wished to buy food to ensure they didn’t take more than their “share.”
- In 2015, things began to devolve more quickly as electricity began to be rationed and farmers were forced to turn over their harvests to the government.
- 2016 brought the announcement that folks were on their own – there was simply not enough food. As well, despite the rationing, an electricity shortage was announced.
- 2016 also brought the news that the country was out of everything: food, medicine, and nearly all basic necessities. People were dying of starvation and malnourishment made other illnesses even worse. Hyperinflation brought exorbitant prices, like $150 for a dozen eggs.
- Now, civil war is near (if not already happening.) They’re calling it “protests” but violence between the people and the government is ongoing. This rage is stoked by wealthy Venezuelans who enjoy luxurious meals, fabulous parties, and lush accommodations while the rest of the country struggles to find a bag of rice they can afford. Let them eat cake?
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Malls and big stores are basicly alone because there are places where “colectivos” use to attack, with bombs and there is a group of about 40 men in motorcicles that have been creating chaos in the whole city, every day the take the city they have plenty of arms and the just go through the city shooting building houses, stealing stores, people on the streets, batteries of cars, everything the want… this situation is far worst that we ever imagine. they kill people every day and they are pay mercenaries from the goverment because no one does nothing.
the goverment people is also killing inocents. kids… teenagers, the youth. we are panicking. We bough a land 3 years ago. I got pregnant and we decided to wait. the land is a safe zone but is 5 hours from here. is a very small town 11. 000 people. I live ib a city with about 3 million people. at least for now the town are peaceful but there isnt electricity and the isnt an asfalt road so this doesnt sound lovely for thief that are now looking for biggest fish to cash. according to our neighbours the town is in calm nothing has happen. We need to go as soon as possible. I am scared because what you say is also true. But in the city there are no options at least not now. . what do you thnk we should do? I realize appreciate what you recommend.
Venezuelan houses are already bunkers. This has being like this ever since I can remember. Perhaps 20 years… Every regular house is made like bunkers. Pure concrete from the botton to the walls to everything. Every house has also 2 to 3 security doors really big and heavy ones and on top of that we have fences and electric fences on top Of BIG GATES. And trust me is not enough to be safe.
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Much more here..........
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-05/letters-venezuela-what-life-really-post-collapse-society
Actually the United States is an incredibly safe country if you just stay out of certain urban areas
Still, homicide is one of the top 10 or 12 causes of death in the US. Not the case in most places. But perhaps you are right, it's like the unemployment rate: the average does not mean anything.
60.37 per 100,000 persons per year in Detroit-ouch.
However, I note that US is listed as having fourth highest murder rate in world, right after Venezuela, and we are the only first-world country to make the list
The U.S. does not have the 4th highest murder rate in the world. I don't care what journalists print. They only compile the data that is given. If it is not reported then it is not a crime.
And who does the killing here?
Most of it is either gang related or drug related.
And you are more likely to be killed by someone you know. About an 85% chance if you are white and 95-98 percent chance if you are black. I have seen this several times but I can't find the resource now.....
Bottom line....stay away from drugs and gangbangers and be careful with the people you socialize with.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls