Liberals spreading false claims about Trump immunity

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Liberals are out in full force spreading false claims about yesterdays Supreme Court decision regarding Trumps immunity. Their main lie is that now " Trump can order Navy Seal Team 6 to kill a political rival" and have immunity. That is total bs and its meant to scare uninformed people.
The court said there has to be a clear separation of what official conduct is and what (unofficial) personal conduct is. Killing a rival is not official conduct and not only would he face impeachment, he would be arrested. Not to mention, The Navy Seals would never even think about carrying out that order, it would be blocked by even the most right wing congressman. Just nonsense.
This was clearly the right decision and the left is only upset because they wont be able to put Trump on trial before the election, thats all this is about. Ignore the Lefts nonsense about a threat to our democracy, that is a talking point/ marketing. Its utter nonsense.
 
The_hero said:
...This was clearly the right decision and the left is only upset because they wont be able to put Trump on trial before the election, thats all this is about. Ignore the Lefts nonsense about a threat to our democracy, that is a talking point/ marketing. Its utter nonsense.
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Question to you as a fellow Republican...

Would you rather see Trump go to trial for the serious remaining criminal trials before the U.S. Presidential election...possibly impacting the election results or would you rather see the lower courts decide what's "official acts" versus "unofficial (private) acts" after the U.S. Presidential election when he's a sitting U.S. President of the United States ???

Now, if you ask me the above question...​

I would rather see the lower courts decide after the U.S. Presidential election. Those laws that Trump is accused of breaking were "unofficial (private) acts"...can go to trial. In contrast, the other laws Trump is accused of breaking are tossed out because those other laws were "official acts".

Simply, the indictment counts against Trump will be a lot less after the lower courts define them and he then goes to trial as the first sitting U.S. President to do such while already a convicted felon.

In reality, Trump will pull a fast one and get all indictments against him thrown out, pardoning his cronies, and going after his former inner circle lawyers (Republicans) who had made plea deals to testify against him so that they could stay out of prison.

There's no happy ending to the above. Nobody wins regardless if Trump wins or loses in the 2024 U.S. Presidential Election and it's a sad day for America.

P.S. Both Trump and Biden need to drop out...one because of his criminal behaviors and the other because of his growing cognitive problems. I'm confident there are other suitable candidates to become the next U.S. President of the United States.

wrbtrader
 
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The_hero said:
Liberals are out in full force spreading false claims about yesterdays Supreme Court decision regarding Trumps immunity. Their main lie is that now " Trump can order Navy Seal Team 6 to kill a political rival" and have immunity. That is total bs and its meant to scare uninformed people.
The court said there has to be a clear separation of what official conduct is and what (unofficial) personal conduct is. Killing a rival is not official conduct and not only would he face impeachment, he would be arrested. Not to mention, The Navy Seals would never even think about carrying out that order, it would be blocked by even the most right wing congressman. Just nonsense.
This was clearly the right decision and the left is only upset because they wont be able to put Trump on trial before the election, thats all this is about. Ignore the Lefts nonsense about a threat to our democracy, that is a talking point/ marketing. Its utter nonsense.
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These people are sick. Why would they even suggest that Biden do that?
 
Extreme liberal, progressives are spouting lies on cable tv, demonizing the US Supreme Court, Joe Biden spewing more lies about absolute power? In that case, Joe Biden thinks he has absolute power? Think again. He has done a lot of things while in office that is not part of his Presidential duties which means, he is not immune from prosecution for those actions. One big one is Joe Biden doling out monies to Ukraine without going thru Congress. He has done this more than one time. His personal dealings with Ukraine too does not fall under Presidential duties too. Remember, this is the same Joe Biden on video claiming to have had the prosecutor in Ukraine investigating Hunter Biden and his Burisima deals fired at the threat to withhold US aid to Ukraine? That is not covered under Presidential immunity since, he was just a Vice President then.
 
smallfil said:
Extreme liberal, progressives are spouting lies on cable tv, demonizing the US Supreme Court, Joe Biden spewing more lies about absolute power? In that case, Joe Biden thinks he has absolute power? Think again. He has done a lot of things while in office that is not part of his Presidential duties which means, he is not immune from prosecution for those actions. One big one is Joe Biden doling out monies to Ukraine without going thru Congress. He has done this more than one time. His personal dealings with Ukraine too does not fall under Presidential duties too. Remember, this is the same Joe Biden on video claiming to have had the prosecutor in Ukraine investigating Hunter Biden and his Burisima deals fired at the threat to withhold US aid to Ukraine? That is not covered under Presidential immunity since, he was just a Vice President then.
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Just remember who these people are at heart.

"God Bless America? No, no, no, God damn America,"

Hussein Obama's Spiritual Mentor
 
The_hero said:
Liberals are out in full force spreading false claims about yesterdays Supreme Court decision regarding Trumps immunity. Their main lie is that now " Trump can order Navy Seal Team 6 to kill a political rival" and have immunity. That is total bs and its meant to scare uninformed people.
The court said there has to be a clear separation of what official conduct is and what (unofficial) personal conduct is. Killing a rival is not official conduct and not only would he face impeachment, he would be arrested. Not to mention, The Navy Seals would never even think about carrying out that order, it would be blocked by even the most right wing congressman. Just nonsense.
This was clearly the right decision and the left is only upset because they wont be able to put Trump on trial before the election, thats all this is about. Ignore the Lefts nonsense about a threat to our democracy, that is a talking point/ marketing. Its utter nonsense.
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Let's take a look at what constitutional law experts have to say --- and what it means in regards to a President's actions.

"Could a president really order SEAL Team 6 to kill a rival?" Under the new Supreme Court ruling? Actually yes, and he'd be completely immune from consequences.

Biden -- who believes in the democratic principles our nation was founded on -- is unlikely to take actions which undermine those principles. Trump, obviously, is not so constrained.

Could a president really order SEAL Team 6 to kill a rival? It seems so.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...eam-6-to-kill-a-rival-it-seems-so/ar-BB1piYqb
 
No, you idiot; and your friends from MSBS too. He cannot. Killing a rival does not fall into the category of his official acts. Liberal minds wander from this kind of BS to another, which is the Court decision is non-event. The truth is in the middle and everybody can see it. You can learn and analyze but you chose to copy stupid stuff over here. You most probably even skip reading.

The Court decided, "The President is not above the law. But under our system of separated powers, the President may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers, and he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for his official acts."
 
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No, you idiot; and your friends from MSBS too. He cannot. Killing a rival does not fall into the category of his official acts. Liberal minds wander from this kind of BS to another, which is the Court decision is non-event. The truth is in the middle and everybody can see it. You can learn and analyze but you chose to copy stupid stuff over here. You most probably even skip reading.

The Court decided, "The President is not above the law. But under our system of separated powers, the President may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers, and he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for his official acts."
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Constitutional legal experts seem to widely disagree with you.
 
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