Liberal Film Critic Roeper Slams 9/11 Conspiracy Nuts

Another good datasource for ignoramuses:

http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html

"A jump in UAL (United Airlines) put options 90 times (not 90 percent) above normal between September 6 and September 10, and 285 times higher than average on the Thursday before the attack.
-- CBS News, September 26
A jump in American Airlines put options 60 times (not 60 percent) above normal on the day before the attacks.
-- CBS News, September 26
No similar trading ocurred on any other airlines
-- Bloomberg Business Report, the Institute for Counterterrorism (ICT), Herzliyya, Israel [citing data from the CBOE]
Morgan Stanley saw, between September 7 and September 10, an increase of 27 times (not 27 percent) in the purchase of put options on its shares.

Merrill-Lynch saw a jump of more than 12 times the normal level of put opinions in the four trading days before the attacks.

Raytheon, maker of Patriot and Tomahawk missiles, saw its stock soar immediately after the attack. Purchases of call options on Raytheon stock increased sixfold on the day before the attack."
 
Quote from Pekelo:

...and pattersb enters the fracas expressing his ignorance on the subject.But don't be affraid, I will hold your hand and educate you, free of charge.

Quote from pattersb:

4500 and 2500 contracts is nothing!


Ignorance #1: A blanket statement like this is clearly meaningless. Unless you know what the average contract numbers traded were before the attack (how about 27 contracts??) just throwing out numbers is, well meaningless.

5x the average daily contract volume is nothing!

Depends on the stock. If the number of ctrs never fluctuated above 3 a fluctuation of 5 could be signifficant. But:

Ignorance #2: In my post I mentioned a stock that had a 70 times fluctuation of the average daily ctr, is that high enough for you???

One order can easily surpass 10x the average volume on a contract.

I agree. But that is usually before earnings, court rulings or other
signifficant event, that can effect the stock's price. What kind of important event was coming up before 9/11?

By the way I haven't even mentioned stocks where there was call buying, because of the military/deffense category of the stock...


This is the last post of yours I'll respond to. Clearly, you are not worth my time.

Your including 4500 put contract volume among the "EVIDENCE" of a government orchestrated conspiracy on 9/11 is laughable.
 
Instead of posting bullshit let's just quote the 9/11 Commission Report. and BTW: HAL shares fell 30% the next week......

Appendix B: Securities Trading
This appendix describes the staff and U.S. government investigations into the issue of
whether anyone with foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks profited through securities
trading, and explains the conclusion in the Commission’s final report that extensive
government investigation has revealed no evidence of such illicit trading.
Almost since 9/11 itself, there have been consistent reports that massive “insider trading”
preceded the attacks, enabling persons apparently affiliated with al Qaeda to reap huge
profits. The Commission has found no evidence to support these reports. To the contrary,
exhaustive investigation by federal law enforcement, in conjunction with the securities
industry, has found no evidence that anyone with advance knowledge of the terrorist
attacks profited through securities transactions.
Commission Staff Investigation
Commission staff had unrestricted access to the U.S. government officials who led and
conducted the investigation into securities trading in advance of 9/11. In addition to
interviewing the key personnel, Commission staff reviewed the nonpublic government
reports summarizing the investigative results as well as backup data, including
spreadsheets, memoranda and other analyses, and reports of interviews with traders,
securities industry participants, and other witnesses. We obtained and reviewed the
reports of investigations done by certain major nongovernmental securities industries
bodies who share responsibility with the government for monitoring securities trading in
U.S. markets, including the New York Stock Exchange and the National Association of
Securities Dealers Regulation, and interviewed witnesses from a key private-sector entity.
Commission staff also reviewed information provided by foreign securities regulators,
interviewed German law enforcement officials, and interviewed U.S. law enforcement
personnel regarding their contacts with their foreign counterparts on securities trading.
 
In addition, Commission staff drew on its review of extensive classified intelligence
concerning al Qaeda and how it manages its operations and its finances, as well as
debriefings of al Qaeda detainees, including 9/11 plot leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
and other plot participants. This information proved useful in evaluating how closely held
al Qaeda kept the 9/11 operation and the likelihood it would seek to profit from the
attacks through securities trading.
The U.S. Government Investigation of Trading in the United
States
The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and the FBI, with the involvement of
the Department of Justice, conducted the investigation of the allegation that there was
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

illicit trading in advance of 9/11; numerous other agencies played a supporting role.166
The SEC’s chief of the Office of Market Surveillance initiated an investigation into pre-
9/11 trading on September 12, 2001. At a multi-agency meeting on September 17, at FBI
headquarters, the SEC agreed to lead the insider trading investigation, keeping the FBI
involved as necessary. The Department of Justice assigned a white-collar crime
prosecutor from the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Brooklyn to work full-time on the
investigation; he relocated to Washington, D.C., on September 18.
The SEC undertook a massive investigation, which at various times involved more than
40 staff members from the SEC’s Division of Enforcement and Office of International
Affairs. The SEC also took the lead on coordinating intensive investigations by the selfregulatory
organizations (SROs) that share responsibility for monitoring the U.S.
securities markets, including, among others, the New York Stock Exchange, the
American Stock Exchange, the National Association of Securities Dealers Regulation,
and the Chicago Board Options Exchange. The investigation focused on securities of
companies or industries that could have been expected to suffer economically from the
terrorist attacks. Thus, the investigators analyzed trading in the following sectors:
airlines, insurance, financial services, defense and aerospace, security services, and travel
and leisure services, as well as companies with substantial operations in the area of the
World Trade Center. The investigation also included broad-based funds that could have
been affected by a major shock to the U.S. economy. Ultimately, the investigators
analyzed trading in 103 individual companies and 32 index or exchange-traded funds and
examined more than 9.5 million securities transactions.
The investigators reviewed any trading activity that resulted in substantial profit from the
terrorist attacks. Investments that profited from dropping stock prices drew great scrutiny,
including short selling and the purchase of put options.168 The SEC has long
experience in investigating insider trading violations, which can involve the use of these
techniques by those who know of an impending event that will make stock prices fall.
The investigators also sought to determine who profited from well-timed investments in
industries that benefited from the terrorist attacks, such as the stock of defense and
security companies, and who timely liquidated substantial holdings in companies likely to
suffer from the attacks.
166 The SEC is an independent federal agency entrusted with enforcing the federal securities laws. Its
Division of Enforcement has extensive experience in investigating insider trading. Because the SEC lacks
authority to bring criminal cases, it regularly works jointly with the FBI and DOJ, as it did in this case, on
potentially criminal securities law violations.
167 Short selling is a strategy that profits from a decline in stock price. A short seller borrows stock from a
broker dealer and sells it on the open market. At some point in the future, he closes the transaction by
buying back the stock and returning it to the lending broker dealer.
168 A put option is an investment that profits when the underlying stock price falls. A put option contract
gives its owner the right to sell the underlying stock at a specified strike price for a certain period of time.
If the actual price drops below the strike price, the owner of the put profits because he can buy stock
cheaper than the price for which he can sell it. By contrast, a call option contract is an investment that
profits when the underlying stock price rises. A call option contract gives its owner the right to buy the
underlying stock at a specified strike price for a certain time period. People illicitly trading on inside
information often have used options because they allow the trader to leverage an initial investment, so that
a relatively small investment can generate huge profits.
Terrorist Financing Staff Monograph
147
The SEC investigators reviewed voluminous trading records to identify accounts that
made trades that led to profits as a result of the attacks. The SEC followed up on any such
trades by obtaining documents and, where appropriate, interviewing the traders to
understand the rationale for the trades. The SEC also referred to the FBI any trade that
resulted in substantial profit from the attacks—a much lower threshold for a criminal
referral than it would normally employ. Consequently, the FBI conducted its own
independent interviews of many of the potentially suspicious traders. The SROs, which
have extensive market surveillance departments, played a key role in the SEC
investigation by providing information and, in some cases, detailed reports to the
commission. In addition, the SEC directly contacted 20 of the largest broker-dealers and
asked them to survey their trading desks for any evidence of illicit trading activity. It also
asked the Securities Industry Association—the broker-dealer trade group—to canvass its
members for the same purpose.
 
The SEC investigation had built-in redundancies to ensure that any suspicious trading
would be caught. For example, the SEC reviewed massive transaction records to detect
any suspicious option trading and also obtained reports, known as the Large Option
Position Reports and Open Interest Distribution Reports, that identified the holders of
substantial amounts of options without regard to when those options were purchased.
Similarly, to ensure full coverage, the SEC obtained information from a number of
entities that play a role in facilitating short sales. Between these efforts, the work of the
SROs, and the outreach to industry, the chief SEC investigator expressed great
confidence that the SEC investigation had detected any potentially suspicious trade.
No Evidence of Illicit Trading in the United States
The U.S. government investigation unequivocally concluded that there was no evidence
of illicit trading in the U.S. markets with knowledge of the terrorist attacks. The
Commission staff, after an independent review of the government investigation, has
discovered no reason to doubt this conclusion.
To understand our finding, it is critical to understand the transparency of the U.S.
markets. No one can make a securities trade in the U.S. markets without leaving a paper
trail that the SEC can easily access through its regulatory powers. Moreover, brokerdealers
must maintain certain basic information on their customers. It is, of course,
entirely possible to trade through an offshore company, or a series of nominee accounts
and shell companies, a strategy that can make the beneficial owner hard to determine.
Still, the investigators could always detect the initial trade, even if they could not
determine the beneficial owner. Any suspicious profitable trading through such accounts
would be starkly visible. The investigators of the 9/11 trades never found any blind alleys
caused by shell companies, offshore accounts, or anything else; they were able to
investigate the suspicious trades they identified. Every suspicious trade was determined
to be part of a legitimate trading strategy totally unrelated to the terrorist attacks.
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
148
Many of the public reports concerning insider trading before 9/11 focused on the two
airline companies most directly involved: UAL Corp., the parent company of United
Airlines, and AMR Corp., the parent company of American Airlines. Specifically, many
people have correctly pointed out that unusually high volumes of put options traded in
UAL on September 6–7 and in AMR on September 10.169
When the markets opened on September 17, AMR fell 40 percent and UAL fell 43
percent. The suspicious options trading before the attacks fueled speculation that al
Qaeda had taken advantage of the U.S. markets to make massive profits from its
murderous attacks. The allegations had appeal on their face—just as al Qaeda used our
sophisticated transportation system to attack us, it appeared to have used our
sophisticated markets to finance itself and provide money for more attacks. But we
conclude that this scenario simply did not happen.
Although this report will not discuss each of the trades that profited from the 9/11 attacks,
some of the larger trades, particularly those cited in the media as troubling, are illustrative
and typical both of the nature of the government investigation into the trades and of the
innocent nature of the trading. The put trading in AMR and UAL is a case in point: it
appeared that somebody made big money by betting UAL and AMR stock prices were
going to collapse, yet closer inspection revealed that the transactions were part of an
innocuous trading strategy.
The UAL trading on September 6 is a good example. On that day alone, the UAL put
option volume was much higher than any surrounding day and exceeded the call option
volume by more than 20 times—highly suspicious numbers on their face.170 The SEC
quickly discovered, however, that a single U.S. investment adviser had purchased 95
percent of the UAL put option volume for the day. The investment adviser certainly did
not fit the profile of an al Qaeda operative: it was based in the United States, registered
with the SEC, and managed several hedge funds with $5.3 billion under management. In
interviews by the SEC, both the CEO of the adviser and the trader who executed the trade
explained that they—and not any client—made the decision to buy the put as part of a
trading strategy based on a bearish view of the airline industry. They held bearish views
for a number of reasons, including recently released on-time departure figures, which
suggested the airlines were carrying fewer passengers, and recently disclosed news by
AMR reflecting poor business fundamentals. In pursuit of this strategy, the adviser sold
short a number of airline shares between September 6 and September 10; its transactions
included the fortunate purchase of UAL puts. The adviser, however, also bought 115,000
shares of AMR on September 10, believing that their price already reflected the recently
released financial information and would not fall any further. Those shares dropped
significantly when the markets reopened after the attacks. Looking at the totality of the
adviser’s circumstances, as opposed to just the purchase of the puts, convinced the SEC
that it had absolutely nothing to do with the attacks or al Qaeda. Still, the SEC referred
169 See, e.g., September 18, 2001 Associated Press Report.
170 A high ratio of puts to calls means that on that day far more money was being bet that the stock price
would fall than that the stock price would rise. Such a ratio is a potential indicator of insider trading—
although it can also prove to have entirely innocuous explanations, as in this case.Terrorist Financing Staff Monograph
149
the trade to the FBI, which also conducted its own investigation and reached the same
conclusion.
The AMR put trading on September 10 further reveals how trading that looks highly
suspicious at first blush can prove innocuous. The put volume of AMR on September 10
was unusually high and actually exceeded the call volume by a ratio of 6:1—again,
highly suspicious on its face. The SEC traced much of the surge in volume to a California
investment advice newsletter, distributed by email and fax on Sunday, September 9,
which advised its subscribers to purchase a particular type of AMR put options. The SEC
interviewed 28 individuals who purchased these types of AMR puts on September 10,
and found that 26 of them cited the newsletter as the reason for their transaction. Another
27 purchasers were listed as subscribers of the newsletter. The SEC interviewed the
author of the newsletter, a U.S. citizen, who explained his investment strategy analysis,
which had nothing to do with foreknowledge of 9/11. Other put option volume on
September 10 was traced to similarly innocuous trades.
Another good example concerns a suspicious UAL put trade on September 7, 2001. A
single trader bought more than one-third of the total puts purchased that day, establishing
a position that proved very profitable after 9/11. Moreover, it turns out that the same
trader had a short position in UAL calls—another strategy that would pay off if the price
of UAL dropped. Investigation, however, identified the purchaser as a well-established
New York hedge fund with $2 billion under management. Setting aside the unlikelihood
of al Qaeda having a relationship with a major New York hedge fund, these trades looked
facially suspicious. But further examination showed the fund also owned 29,000 shares of
UAL stock at the time—all part of a complex, computer-driven trading strategy. As a
result of these transactions, the fund actually lost $85,000 in value when the market
reopened. Had the hedge fund wanted to profit from the attacks, it would not have
retained the UAL shares.
These examples were typical. The SEC and the FBI investigated all of the put option
purchases in UAL and AMR, drawing on multiple and redundant sources of information
to ensure complete coverage. All profitable option trading was investigated and resolved.
There was no evidence of illicit trading and no unexplained or mysterious trading.
Moreover, there was no evidence that profits from any profitable options trading went
uncollected.
 
171
The options trading in UAL and AMR was typical of the entire investigation. In all
sectors and companies whose trades looked suspicious because of their timing and
171 The press has reported this claim, and the allegation even found its way into the congressional testimony
concerning terrorist financing of a former government official. The government investigation would have
detected such traders because the investigators focused on people who purchased profitable positions—
regardless of when or whether or when they closed out the position. Moreover, officials at the SEC and the
Options Clearing Corporation, a private entity that processes options trading, pointed out that any profitable
options positions are automatically exercised upon the expiration date unless the customer explicitly
directed otherwise. Any direction not to exercise profitable options is a highly unusual event, which the
OCC double-checks by contacting the broker who gave them such instruction. The OCC personnel had no
recollection of any such contacts after 9/11.
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
150
profitability, including short selling of UAL, AMR, and other airline stocks, close
scrutiny revealed absolutely no evidence of foreknowledge. The pattern is repeated over
and over. For example, the FBI investigated a trader who bought a substantial position in
put options in AIG Insurance Co. shortly before 9/11. Viewed in isolation, the trade
looked highly suspicious, especially when AIG stock plummeted after 9/11. The FBI
found that the trade had been made by a fund manager to hedge a long position of 4.2
million shares in the AIG common stock. The fund manager owned a significant amount
of AIG stock, but the fund had a very low tax basis in the stock (that is, it had been
bought long ago and had appreciated significantly over time). Selling even some of it
would have created a massive tax liability. Thus, the fund manager chose to hedge his
position through a put option purchase. After 9/11, the fund profited substantially from its
investment in puts. At the same time, however, it suffered a substantial loss on the
common stock, and overall lost money as a result of the attacks.
In sum, the investigation found absolutely no evidence that any trading occurred with
foreknowledge of 9/11. The transparency of the U.S. securities markets almost ensures
that any such trading would be detectable by investigators. Even if the use of some
combination of offshore accounts, shell companies, and false identification obscured the
identity of the traders themselves, the unexplained trade would stand out like a giant red
flag. The absence of any such flags corroborates the conclusion that there is no evidence
any such trading occurred. Indeed, the leaders of both the SEC and FBI investigations
into pre-9/11 trading expressed great confidence in this conclusion.
 
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Instead of posting bullshit let's just quote the 9/11 Commission Report...

Yeah, and as we know Kennedy was shot by a lonely sniper...
 
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Yeah, and as we know Kennedy was shot by a lonely sniper...

You don't find it suspicous that not a SINGLE person in 43 years has made a deathbed confession, sold their story for millions or come clean ?
 
How many deathbead confessions do we get from Mafia leaders?

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You don't find it suspicous that not a SINGLE person in 43 years has made a deathbed confession, sold their story for millions or come clean ?
 
How many Mafia leaders haven't been tricked out by underlings? I can't think of a single Chicago "boss" who hasn't gone to jail in the past two decades.

And besides is there any financial windfall for someone to publicly proclaim the story of how they killed Vinnie the Bookie?
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How many deathbead confessions do we get from Mafia leaders?
 
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